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-50- <br />• MR. BAMBERG: Only up on some of those slopes where you actually get a <br />little orographic -- you know what I mean. Where you actually get those <br />clouds hitting up against the mountain, you'll get 12. Down on those <br />sagebrush flats, if you've lived there, you do not. I would say between 6 and <br />8 down on those other areas. But you just get a little bit of a slope up <br />through there and that's where you get quite a bit more moisture. And that <br />moisture comes at a critical time. <br />(UNKNOWN SPEAKER): Mr. Chairman, I think there is a pretty good example <br />dawn in that area on Mt. Blanco, the BLM land chain in the pinon~s off that and <br />tried to re-seed it to grass for grazing. We can see a scar to this day - two <br />scars, as a matter of fact, on the mountain that has never revegetated. So I <br />question the effectiveness of re-seeding dryland in this area. <br />MR. BAMBERG: That chaining was done in many places in the western <br />states. By the way, it's no longer done. It was not a success. The problem <br />• with the chaining is that they did it in areas that were so arid. That if you <br />do wait for a period of time, those pinon junipers will came bacK in. But <br />we're talking normal cycles. What you will be doing down here is you will be <br />artificially -- by coming in and planting at certain times of the year, <br />cutting that cycle down. Also by planting and coming in and doing it the <br />right time of year, you can get the revegetation. <br />Now, the revegetation will not be back to a grassland. The grasses will <br />became a portion of that, but it will simply be what I call your desert step. <br />It will be shrubs, which are the sagebrush and mountain mahogony, with widely <br />spaced trees. And this will be the configuration of land use that the <br />reclamation is aimed for. <br />. MR. ENTZ: What type of trees? <br />MR. BAMBERG: Pinon Juniper. <br /> <br />