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:-• . -~ • <br />r~.r t?lose two piles, The plus ten I am adding is simply to <br />.~ ~ ,~ ~ A. <br />give me so^Fe leeway for the probability of- a Pinon oz- <br />Juniper see3 to become established. St is a very grey area. <br />Q That is the minimum? <br />A I world say on the one pile the minimum would be <br />about thirty years. <br />Q You are not giving the maximu.-a, you are aivna, us <br />the minimum amount of time? <br />~- ~'es, sir, yes. <br />~ty.~ Q If someone were to tell you that the spoils were <br />there since 1900, since 1896, which you measured, does that <br />seem believable to you? <br />i~•. ; c:icin't r;ea.;t.rr t?_.n r~~o_ls, <br />~ ~ '.11 ye•u s~easured was she trees? <br />". I didn't ;-~ea~-:re the spoils -- would it be be- <br />lieF-able to me? <br />"mss o- no7 <br />7. `t v:ould be a little bit difficult to believe <br />--,•-. <br />~~a~c.: <br />that they could ser..ain free of seeding establishnen`_ for <br />that irterir period. But, as I say, there is z gray area, <br />the time betH•een the deposit of the spoils and the estat~- <br />lishment of those trees, and I don't think t'r.at it is <br />scien~ifically FJiSP. to try to put zn act ual date on how <br />lora that ~:ould to?:.e -- i.` iS Yiic?:ly speculative. <br />Q It is hicrhly speculative far yoe to say that i` <br />you hzve a pile of spc_ls here in 1971 that you are aoin~r <br />to have z two °oct Fiaon there in thirty ~~ears frC:?: ncw? <br />k It is highly speculative to give us hew logo, it. <br />12SG <br />