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DRMS Permit Index
Permit No
M2001023
IBM Index Class Name
Permit File
Doc Date
6/14/2001
Doc Name
PARTY STATUS REQUEST FORM
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<br /> <br />~~~~ S <br />June 5, 2 Ol <br />To: County Commissioners <br />RECEIVED <br />From: Milner Area Residents <br />Camillett Pit #2JFloodplain <br />JUN 1 4 1001 <br />Division of Minerals and Geology <br />Attached is information prepared by George McCoy, Ph.D. of Aquatic Envvorunental <br />Services. Dr. McCoy has reviewed the floodplain study presented by Paul Currier and has come <br />to the conclusion that it is wrong. He lists several facts to confum his reasons. <br />Dr. McCoy indicates that none of the cross-sections have been validated. Mr. Moon told Dr. <br />McCoy that he did not do a ground survey of the properly. That the information used by Paul <br />Currier consisted of a few recording shots at certain points by Moon that were designated by <br />Currier. Moon said, "I collected data where I was told to collect it." This is not a valid survey <br />and probably the reason why none of the maps were stamped, sealed or signed by Moon, as a <br />legal survey would have. The cross-sections that the Commissioners Gave seen are models <br />manipulated by Currier and have not been validated by any source. The usual validation would <br />be from actual physical cross-sections drawn by the surveyor and compared with the computer <br />modeling. In this case there were none drawn to make any comparison. You do not know <br />whether the model has been distorted or not without adequate validation. John Eastman is not a <br />competent source. He told Dr. McCoy "I do not know anything about HEC modeling." At the <br />very least, he should have requested the field survey cross-sections to compare what the engineer <br />does in the model. We want to see validation of the cross-sections by an independent, qualified <br />surveyor. We want to be assured that the model has not been distorted to fit the applicant's needs. <br />'One major example of miscalculation is the gage use to show peak flow for Trout Creek. The <br />gage used for the report accounts for only 20 percent of the total Trout Creek Basin drainage. <br />Therefore, the information used completely underestimates peak flood runoff. Instead of 272 cfs, <br />the peak flow can be expected to be in the range of 2,000 cfs. This is according to Dr. McCcy. <br />"The study does not analyze the effects that a backwater curve would have that is immediately <br />upstream of the confluence and is shown in the aerial map that the Milner area residents provided. <br />Dr. McCoy says, "Since the applicant's property is contiguous and surrounded on both sides by <br />the Yampa River and Trout Creek, performing a combined flow analysis may show that the <br />applicant has considerably more property within the 100-year floodplain than stated in the <br />applicant's flood delineation report." <br />We had hopes of getting this report to you earlier, but John Eastman apparently did not have the <br />information that was requested. John told him that the County did not have the information and <br />that it had to be requested from Camilletti's attorney. I understand that this is information <br />routinely requested by reviewing agencies and that Routt County should have aUeady had it on <br />file. When I asked him about this, John's response to me was "the floodplain mapping has been <br />out there for months and you want it now?" This is public information and John had no right to <br />try to keep it from us. If in fact, the County did not have this information, John as your <br />"reviewer" should have been asking for it well before now. <br />As you know and as I reiterated to John, we have been questioning the validity of Camilletti's <br />floodplain report for months. Not being familiar with the process, we did not realize that the <br />County expected the objectors to initiate and pay for a study. No one told us. We thought our <br />objections, and the fact that Camilletti s mapping was incomplete would prompt the County to <br />provide, or at the very least, request an independent study of the 100-year floodplain delineation. <br />
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