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163 <br /> 1 dryland grass than he is. i have been working <br /> 2 10 <br />t <br />i <br /> years <br />ry <br />ng to seed with dryland grass through <br />' 3 SCS, and there are some programs that have succeeded <br /> 4 and that have not. It's -- there is 14 windrows. <br />' 5 And Jerald mentioned something about <br /> 6 wind erosion being worse than water erosion. SCS <br />' 7 claims there is 14 tons per year of topsoil that, <br />' 8 with a grain field, potato field, grasses that do <br /> 9 not have grass, that they just blow away from <br />' 10 farmers' fields. 14 tons -- <br /> 11 UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: Louder, Jae. We <br /> 12 couldn't hear you. <br /> 13 MR. GALLEGOS: 14 tons per acre per year <br /> <br /> 14 of topsoil is lost to wind erosion in the valley. <br />' 15 That's a conservative number, by the way. ]f you <br /> 16 plant barley, potatoes, any other type of cx•op that <br /> 17 does not have some type of grass to hold down the <br /> 18 soil, you are going to lose that much. <br /> 19 Oka <br />W <br />d that Sam Bamber <br />ll <br />I <br />t <br /> y. <br />g <br />e <br />, <br />con <br />en <br /> 20 is not an expert in growing dryland grass it that <br /> 21 area. I have been there. I have worked with the <br /> 22 SCS, like I said, for 10 years in dryland grass <br /> 23 programs. <br /> 24 And we don't move topsoil, put it over <br /> 25 here, mix A and B horizon. We barely till the acre <br />' AGREN, BLANDO & BILLINGS <br /> <br />