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!~ ~ ~ <br />~~1 <br />~~~ ~ <br />1~ <br />' 1 reaction of shock. I didn't suspect that anything like that <br />2 could have occurred. <br />~' 3 Two or three weeks prior to that June 6 wa14:, we-- <br />4 several of us--maybe two dozen citizens of Colorado SF~rings were <br />5 given a tour of the quarry with representatives from Castle <br />6 Concrete including Mr. Morgan and Mr. Heifner and Mr. Briggs. <br />7 We had a complete tour of the area. At one point--at <br />' 8 one juncture, we were at the westerly permit boundary right where <br />9 the 1930 rock slide goes into Williams Canyon. And several of <br />10 us, at that point, had a conversation with Mr. Heifner about rock <br />11 slides, and he explained the--when this particular rock slide <br />12 occurred. And the question was raised about the Castl•~--or the <br />13 Queens Canyon quarry which was so contentious 20 years ago. <br />14 And there were severe, very visible rock slides coming <br />' 15 off that particular quarry. So we had a discussion of those-- <br /> 16 CHAIRMAN DANIELSON: Mr. Cobert, I really hai;e to say <br />' 1T thi <br />b <br />t <br />' <br />h <br />- <br />hi <br />di <br />h <br />i <br />i <br />f <br /> s <br />u <br />we <br />re <br />ere <br />-t <br />ic question; <br />d t <br />ey <br />s <br />s l <br />ke a traf <br />' 18 run the red light or not. I mean we have an allegation that <br /> 19 there's a violation of the red--now this stuff you are saying, I <br />' 20 think is quite relevant to the permit issue. And we are going to <br /> 21 hear that later tonight, but I simply want to--you to know that <br />' 22 we are going to give you the time, but we really need--the <br />' 23 question is, did they violate the law or not? And that is very <br /> 24 narrow. <br /> 25 MR. COBERT: The question in my mind is; did they know? <br />