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_~ <br />testimony of Mr. Michael Long, the Director of DMG, were able to <br />define the reference area: <br />Q [John S. Retrum, counsel for OSMJ: you had <br />stated that in your opinion the contour that <br />exists at the ridge in Pit 1 resembles the general <br />surface configuration of the land before mining? <br />A. What i was referring to is in the--yeah, the <br />general area; not soecifically the permit area but <br />the general area of the mine. <br />Q What I would like to understand is the scale-- <br />A. Oh, okay. <br />Q --that you are talking about. For example, if you <br />were standing in the bottom of the gap that now <br />exists, from that perspective would you say that <br />the ridge closely resembles the surface <br />configuration prior to mining? <br />A. Whatever was there prior to mining? <br />Q Yes. <br />A. No. <br />Q how far back would you have to be from the <br />ridge itself before you would say that this ridge <br />closely resembles the general surface configura- <br />tion of the land before mining? <br />A. You know, it's harder to put a geographic boundary <br />on it, but as I said earlier, what I look at--or <br />in my opinion what I'm looking at when I say that <br />I'm looking at the general land forms within the <br />area and does it resemble basic other land forms <br />in the area, does it not offend other land forms <br />in the area? In other words was it once--let me <br />try and use an example; maybe it doesn't make any <br />sense. But was there once, say, a corn field <br />there and now there's a ridge or a hole or what- <br />ever; but looking in the general area, blending <br />with surrounding terrain, I guess is what I'm <br />saying; but to ive you a distance, I mean, what, <br />a half mile, quarter mile, I really can't give you <br />one. <br />7 <br />