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( <br />1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />a <br />5 <br />s <br />7 <br />e <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />1a <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />2a <br />25 <br />17 <br />MS. LOBATO-BLEIDT: I'd like to go off the <br />record, please. <br />(Whereupon a short discussion was had off the <br />record) <br />Q (By Mr. Baty) Do you remember when that <br />permit was completed, the application was completed? <br />A I sure don't remember when. <br />Q Ok, and in the process, say, from 1977 to <br />1982, or whatever, you were still doing a little digging <br />for your own family? <br />A Yeah. <br />Q Did you have any contact with the Ute Indians <br />A Never had any; I never met any of them. <br />Q Did they ever come out and try and talk to you <br />like neighbors? <br />A Not that I know; there were some Indians came <br />over to see if they could get some coal, but -- <br />Q Anybody from Towaoc? <br />A Not that I know of. <br />Q You have to forgive my pronunciation. Towaoc, <br />yeah, that's it. Did.-you -ever ruri:.into.Harry:Metter <br />coming_over= ariil~telling`-ybu _that you bettec~.be-.careful <br />and~:don'_t get?.on-anything~tiut`.2.'4~acres?~~ <br />A No, the only time Matters came over was when I <br />asked him to come over and plow my road. <br />Toni W. Bradbury Reporting Services <br />P.O. Boz 1838 <br />Pagosa Springs, CO 81147 <br />(303) 731•SZBl <br />