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13 <br /> <br />1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />a <br />s <br />s <br />a <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />1s <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />2a <br />25 <br />A I put a concrete floor underneath the bend <br />where the coals come down from the crusher into the <br />floor to the ground. <br />q Did you work with Terry Winn in getting this <br />permit started? <br />A Well, kind of worked together with him. <br />q When you worked by yourself, then you simply <br />had a permit for your personal use and that was all? <br />A Uh-Huh. <br />q You know we have got a mine map here that's <br />says it was mapped in 1973, and it looks like it was <br />updated also to '86. Did you hire the surveyor to do <br />those surveys, the one in 1973 that was the last survey? <br />That was the last survey? <br />A (Witness nods affirmatively.) <br />q We have some signatures on there from Fred <br />Johnson. He is not a surveyor, is he? <br />A Not that I know of. <br />(Whereupon a short discussion was had off the <br />record.) <br />q (Bv Mr. Batt') Did you cause Cliff Schmid to <br />go out and survey the property? <br />A No. <br />q Did Terry Winn do it? <br />A That I don't know. <br />Toni W. Bradbury Reporting Services <br />P.O. Boz 1838 <br />Pagosa Springs, CO 81197 <br />