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18 <br /> 1 operation. Chuck went through some and was involved, but <br />• 2 through the whole business operation and the whole family is <br /> 3 the turmoil. That 'has calmed to the point where the estate and <br /> 4 hlr. Webster understands the responsibilities they have. <br /> 5 They lost their leader, if you wi].1, a few <br /> 6 months ago. That's calmed down to the point where we under- <br /> ~ stand the responsibilities. <br /> g Again tae are not in a position of being <br /> ~ insolvent in the estate, by any means. It's more a 7uestion <br /> 10 of who, what, who can resolve what. That's really what's <br /> 11 changed in the last few months. <br /> 12 In terms of solvency of the estate, there isn't <br /> 13 any indication that there are sufficient creditors out there <br /> 14 creating any severe problems. That's the big thing that has <br /> 15 changed. <br /> 16 MS. WINTER: Are there only--except perhaps <br /> 17 for the removal of topsoil from this other location--are there <br /> lg only two pits? <br /> 19 There are no other pits? <br /> 20 MR. WATSON: We are talking now about the <br /> 21 Jones-- <br /> 22 MS. WINTER: I know. <br /> 23 D1R. WATSON: Okay. <br /> 24 MS. WINTER: In all times--other times that I've <br /> <br /> 25 been on the Board when we have been hearing civil penalties, <br /> rlLCr:~ i aRrL.~'rF~R .c ++sncla rr.s. lac <br /> CrrnfirJ Shun hood Rrpnn. n <br /> I.tUU Chrrn ~ i11; RuuJ <br /> Lurlrrn a. Cnlumdu FUI 'I <br /> <br />