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9 <br />~ 1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />4 <br />5 <br />6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />!, 13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />~l L <br />I <br />MR. SHELTON: I guess it's my feeling at this <br />point that the subpoena would give us considerable added <br />levexage in the end, and frankly, another month after six <br />years, five years of operating without a permit, I doubt is -- <br />that that is all that significant in this particular case. <br />And ;t seems to me that in this case the subpoena might -- is <br />inde@d warranted and would allow -- give us a little extra <br />clout to get things put into shape. <br />MR. BARRY: Larry, I started down this path <br />thinking that even though we may well be perfectly legitimate <br />in dde process criteria, I have a built-in reluctance to -- to <br />fine somebody without them -- without being able to know <br />certajinly that they know we're having that hearing. I mean <br />that grates against my legal nerves because I can't -- Mark <br />cann~t assure us he knows we're having a hearing today. <br />{ We have complied with the law, but we can't <br />be sure he knows we're having the hearing and my sensitivities <br />to ,that are such that I would prefer to make sure that the <br />Sheriff walks up to him and gives him a notice telling him <br />we're having a hearing. If he then chooses not to show, that's <br />fine.. But I don't know that he Y.nows we're having this hearing <br />MR. HOLDER: When a cease and desist order is <br />issued is there any statement in there saying that this is <br />leading up to a hearing, further vio~ations? <br />~~ <br />I <br />MR. LOYF,: What I said in my .letter and the <br />L7f.EL'N C.I RPEA'7/:R h A Y.SOC/.4 !ES'. /~'( <br />CtniJ~ed .ShunhanJ Rrponrrr <br />IJGO Chrrn rii.r ,4oaJ <br />LnJeron. Cnlrrmlu 90171 <br />JGJ~Ie hN?9I ` <br />I I 4 ~~ <br />