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7 <br /> 1 they're not strictly part of the permit. If they're <br /> 2 constructed for the permit, and typically they are part of the <br /> 3 permit area, and we do as a matter of course include them or <br />it 4 if they are improved to a huge extent. <br /> 5 In other words, if you've got a two-rut road <br /> 6 that you make into a large-haul road, that obviously would <br /> 7 become part of the permit. <br /> $ MS. WINTER: These are not improved roads? <br /> 9 MR. LOYE: Margi, I got to this at the portion <br /> 10 where it is already on the ground. I couldn't tell you how <br /> 11 long the roads have been there. The permit that we had does <br /> 12 not speak to it. These are simply very simple dirt roads. <br />*~ 13 In fact, finding a road differentiating a road i <br /> 14 from other areas in the area is difficult. It's simply <br /> 15 where he drives his trucks. <br /> 16 THE CHAIRMAN: Mark, getting--Margi, are you <br /> 17 done on that line of questioning? I had a separate question. <br /> 18 MS. WINTER: No. I'm wondering, you're not <br /> 19 expecting the road to be reclaimed, even though there seems <br /> 2~ to be a surplus? <br /> 21 MR. LOYE: Well, as near as I can make out, <br /> 22 the permit talked not at all about roads. In other words, <br /> 23 it simply talked about these two areas. We had an approved <br /> 24 permit from the Board on this thing. We never did receive <br /> 25 bond, but there was an improved permit. Therefore, I didn't <br /> Ell EkS' URPEe T}:R 8 ASSOCIATES. 1]'C <br /> Crrq(rrJ Shmrhand Rrpmlrn <br /> /S00 (kern r~illr Road <br /> Lnlnun. CuloraJu 8017/ <br /> 707-76 /-8787 <br />