2017-05-24_REVISION - C1981041

• Permit No: C1981041
• IBM Index Class Name: Revision
• Doc Date: 5/24/2017
• Doc Name: MLRB Hearing Transcripts
• Type & Sequence: TR69
• Email Name: JDM
• Media Type: D
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1 Exhibit C to your Photo Number 2, page Number 2? 1 encountered the sinkhole shown in your Photo Number
2 A. Okay. 2 5?
3 Q. On the right-hand side -- 3 A. Could you repeat the question?
4 MR. BECEWITH: Would you go back, if 4 Q. Yes. How long did water flow, if you
5 you could, Scott, to the display? 5 know, in this lateral ditch and encountered the
6 MR. SCHUTLZ: Slide 2? 6 sinkhole?
7 MR. BECEWITH: Slide 2. There you 7 A. I do not know specifically how long
8 go. 8 the water flowed in that ditch.
9 Q. (BY MR. BECEWITH) The photo on the 9 Q. But it was not the total amount of
10 right, that is the primary irrigation ditch bringing to water that was brought down fran Rapid Creek; is
11 water down to this area? 11 that correct?
12 A. Yes. 12 A. Some portion went into the Carey
13 Q. Is that the Martin Crawford Ditch? 13 Pond, and some portion went into what I call the
14 A. No, not to my knowledge. 14 infiltration trench.
15 Q. And where did this water go? 15 Q. Did you make any determination at all
16 A. It went two places: into the Carey 16 in your inspection how long this sinkhole had been
17 Pond, and then at some point a north trench was dug, 17 there?
18 and a portion of the water was flawing into the 18 A. That was the first time I had seen
19 north-trending ditch. 19 it, and we went back on regular inspections. So it
20 Q. So when you were asked to calculate 20 was a new subsurface hole.
21 how many acre feet had been running for roughly four 21 Q. And when you went back on regular
22 weeks -- 30 days, did you account in that estimate 22 inspections, did you observe other sinkholes in that
23 for the amount of water that went into the Carey 23 ditch?
24 Pond? 24 A. I did not.
25 A. I -- I used the amount Mr. Fontanari 25 Q. Did you observe other sinkholes on
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1 simply told me, the period of time, and the cfs, and 1 the surface of Tract Number 71?
2 that's how I got the calculation. 2 A. No, I did not.
3 Q. Understood. So -- 3 Q. Did you walk Tract 71 to inspect it
4 A. I didn't separate out which went into 4 and investigate it to determine any other areas
5 which. 5 where a hydrologic connection occurred?
6 Q. Okay. And so Photo Number 3 of your 6 MR. JUSTUS: Objection, relevance.
7 exhibit shows water that went into the Carey Pond? 7 He's not testified that he saw water any other place
8 A. Correct. 8 on the property.
9 Q. Okay. And did you ever at any time 9 MR. BECEWITH: He did not.
10 calculate how much water is shown in Photo Number 3 10 MR. SINGLETARY: I think it's
11 in the Carey Pond? 11 relevant. Go ahead.
12 A. How much is showing? 12 MR. BECEWITH: Thank you.
13 Q. How much water is in there. 13 Q. (BY MR. BECEWITH) I'd repeat the
14 A. No, I did not do a calculation on the 14 question. Did you understand my question?
15 amount of water in the pond. 15 A. Go ahead.
16 Q. So would it be correct, if I 16 Q. Okay. Did you -- when you went out
17 understood, that when you had Photo Nwber 4 -- the 17 on your inspection either Jute 11, the 14th, the
18 next one in the series -- sane of that acre feet 18 12th, the 17th, or the 24th, did you walk Tract
19 went down that lateral trench -- 19 Number 71 to determine whether there might be other
20 MR. BECIWTH: Thank you, Scott. 20 sinkholes where water applied to the surface would
21 Wrong one. There you go. Next one. 21 go down that sinkhole?
22 Q. (BY MR. BECEWITH) -- some of the 22 A. On June 11 we did with Mr. Fontanari
23 water went down that lateral ditch and encountered 23 and Mr. Stover.
24 the sinkhole in Photo Number 5? Do you have any 24 Q. And did you find any sinkholes?
25 idea haw long water flawed in that ditch and 25 A. The features that we looked at were
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