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1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />4 <br />5 <br />6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />29 <br />we did one, because the cross -exam, you know, should <br />be limited to when the applicant presents theirs or <br />the division presents theirs. <br />Could you hold that question, Ms. <br />Turner? <br />MS. TURNER: Yes, sir, I sure can. <br />MR. PAULIN: I apologize for not <br />stopping Mr. Kamper. <br />Applicant's presentation. After your <br />witness -- for the rest of the time, after the <br />witness has presented their testimony, then <br />cross - examination will be allowed at that point. <br />Would you like to come up and have a <br />chair, Ms. Turner? There's chairs at the front. <br />MS. TURNER: I can't hear very well, <br />sir. There's heater noise. So I'm trying to stand <br />up so I can hear-and see this. <br />MR. PAULIN: Make yourself <br />comfortable. <br />MR. KAMPER: Good morning, Mr. <br />Chairman. We have a few PowerPoint slides that are <br />a part of our -- one of our exhibits that Lance is <br />going to be queuing up here if we can find it. <br />Chris Kamper, as I've said, for the <br />applicant. Our presentation is going to be divided <br />