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Gul:5u1 . "' .' - 5 - 35. There are alternative ways to go about this, of course. The usual one is to draft a bill and put it in the legislative "hopper". This usually fails because local people don't understand it. Another way is to set up a legislative com- mittee and hold hearings and draft a bill. This often fails, too, in the long run, as the hearing method alone is much weaker than it appears. Local people are not really prepare d to define the ir problems and needs without special preparation. The third method is for the legislators to set up a study com- mission with educational and fact-finding committees in each county and statewide, and then provide for full participation and decision on recommendation by organization leaders and officials who have rights and re spons ibilities. There isn't room to explain this fully here but copies of material are available from my office to illustrate it. This latter method helps local people define their problems and needs and, therefore, gives them a scientific basis to sanction basic policy changes in the law. \V ithout this sanction no law can have lasting value. 4. Of primary concern is the fact that ground water in the East Slope is an interstate body of water that involves streamflow and natural precipitation replenishment. Thus, a unified scientific approach to the management problem in the whole area is indicated. First, the water supply should be defined and described (in law) in terms of the water cycle and the major connected natural reservoirs of that cycle (soil, watershed, ground water aquifer, and atmosphere). This would bring science and law together, so that the law actually represents the physical facts of reality. Such does not exist at present. This is what I think Roscoe Pound meant by his term "social engineering. " Second, the basic policy of the law should be geared to maximum beneficial use over the years; and this expressed as the development and conservation of both land and water according to capabilities (of each natural reservoir) and treatmerlt according to need (of land and water use practices and projects) for continuous use. This is only partially true today. But you do have good foundation for this policy in the soil conservation and water conservation districts of Colorado and in the interstate compacts. PE-rhaps, further improvements in these local and interstate control devices is desirable. Third, the rights irl and to water should he geared to these two broad principles, so that they have' a scientific foundation