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<br />ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT
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<br />pact, because I did not want to feel that we were tying the Governor
<br />down too much, but he was very glad to have his obligations limited
<br />in that respect, '
<br />It is provided that within 30 days after the consent of Congress
<br />becomes effective then he shall appoint this administration,
<br />It is also provided that, if the President wishes, he can appoint a
<br />representative of the United States Government, Of course, the
<br />main operation, the Caddoa Reservoir operation, which .;S the main
<br />feature of this com]:>act, is controlled entirely by the Corps of Engi.
<br />neers of the United States Government, '
<br />The CHAIRMAN, 'Senator Kerr, did you desire to ask a question!
<br />Senator KERR, I was just getting clear in my mind that as you
<br />refer to Caddo a in this discussion you are referring to that which is
<br />in the compact referred to as John Martin Dam!
<br />Mr, VmAL, John Martin Dam, I have been 'it it so long we have
<br />used,that name "Caddoa," It was located at a place cal.l~d Caddoa.
<br />Senator KERR, But it is the same as the John Martin Reservoir!
<br />Mr, VIDAL, It is the John Martin Reservoir, John Martin Dam;
<br />58 miles above the State line on the main, stem, of the river, If you
<br />are familiar with the situation, it is about 15 miles above Lamar, Colo,
<br />The CHAIRMAN, Thank you very much, Mr. Vidal.
<br />Mr, VIDAL, Not at' all, thank you,
<br />The CHAIRMAN, The next witness,
<br />Senator MILLIKIN. Judge Stone, whom do you suggest as the next
<br />witness 1 '
<br />Mr, STONE, Mr, Chairman, before introducing the next witness, I
<br />wish to recognize that the Congr\lSs is concerned relative to the Fed-
<br />eral interests, as well as those interests of the States, In the making
<br />of this compact, Gen, Hans Kramer, in our judgment, has per-
<br />formed an outstanding service, He has recognized the rig-hts and
<br />interests of the States; he has been fair in, considering those mterests.
<br />At the same time he has been very vigilant in taking care of the inter-
<br />ests of the Federal Government and has performed that most difficult
<br />task of getting Commissioners on any compact over the rough spots,
<br />The next WItness appearing here on behalf of Colorado and m sup-
<br />port of this compact IS Gail L, Ireland, former attorney general of the
<br />State of Colorado. For many years Mr, Ireland has been well
<br />acquainted with all of Colorado's water affairs and has served very
<br />effectively as one of our Commissioners.
<br />The gentleman who just appeared before you might be referred to
<br />as one'of our "grand old men" in water matters, and I think he has
<br />demonstrated over the years that he has had a great interest in ami-
<br />cably adjusting the affairs' on this river, even though, Senator
<br />O'Mahoney, he IS a lawyer.
<br />Mr. Ireland will now appear on behalf of Colorado in support of the
<br />compact.
<br />Senator KERR. Off the record,
<br />(Discussion off the record,)
<br />Mr, VIDAL, Mr. Chairman, I omitted one thing I "Wanted to say.
<br />The report of the Federal representative is about as complete and
<br />as good a report as is possible; I think even better than ours, because
<br />he approached it from a different standpoint. It is about as complete
<br />and fair a report as you could have in any similar matter. I cannot
<br />forego this occasion to mention that.
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