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<br /> <br />MEXICAN WATER TREATY <br /> <br />,;,'.'> >.::,:~~{;J~;"':;1;';,il <br /> <br />13 <br /> <br />, <br /> <br />Senator DOWNEY. Mr. Chairman, I would like to request at this time that the <br />'Chairman reqnest :the 'State Department to make available to the oommittee the <br />exchange of all documents or correspondence tending to show any. admission by <br />the Government of Mexico that in the interpretation of this treaty she would <br />not rely upon the fact that she was entitled to water of a quality that wOultJ be <br />usable. <br />The CHAIRMAN, I will consult with the Department, I do not care to stop <br />the proceedings- at this moment to do so. <br />Senator DOWNEY, This is a point of rather grave importance to us. Would the <br />.chairman consider that it is a proper reques,t? <br />The CHAIRMAN. The Chair wi]! consult with the State Department. He does <br />not ca.re to be catechized about what he is going to do. The witness has gone <br />-over the subject of the treaty several times already. Proceed. <br /> <br />Part 2, page 341: <br /> <br />Senator DOWNEY, Returning to the question of any implied guaranty iil the <br />treaty that water ,sha]! be of sufficient quality to be, available fer irrigation, I <br />'suppose that YOlJ formed your opinion merely from the language of the treaty <br />itself, without regard to, those conversations and exchanges between the two <br />Governments that you have spoken of. Would you still be of the opinion that <br />from the la.nguage of the tre.aty itself a court ,or an international arbitration <br />tribunal would not hold that Mexico was entitled to water that was fit for irri- <br />gation purposes? . . <br />Mr. TIPTON. That is my unqualified opinion, Senator, because the language of <br />the treaty resulted from these conversations that you'mentionJ and the language <br />of the treaty was just as plain as it was possible to make it, ana in my unqualified <br />opinion the language of the treaty is such that Mexico could not ask for more <br />water than 1,500,000 acre-feet for any purpose whatsoever. <br />'Senator DOWNEY, You do not think that just adding three simple words, <br />"'regardless of quality," would have made it any plainer? <br />Mr. TIPTON. The language of the treaty is perfectly pl,ain. <br />Senator DOWNEY. Now, Mr. Tipton, you say that if the treaty had included <br />the expression, "regardless of quality," that might perhaps have prevented the <br />,Mexican Senate frotn ratifying the treaty? <br />Mr. TIPTON. The ones in the Mexican Senate are not so conversant with the situa- <br />tion on the river as those who negotiated the treaty. Those who ~egotiated the treaty <br />understood fully what thel( were doing. They understand fully what the condition <br />might be ultimately, while those in the Senate might not be conversant with that <br />'Condition. The language in the treaty is plain and it means one thing, and one thing <br />only, and the ones who negotiated this treaty for Mexico understand it. They also <br />understand about what the quality might be un<;ler ultiplate conditions. In other <br />words, there was no tendency on the. part of the United States negotiators to work <br />'Out something that was bad for Mexicoj and Mexico's negotiators, on the other. <br />hand, knew plainly what they were doing, and the language was agreed to with <br />.one purpose in mind, and they understand it. [Emphasis supplied.] _ <br /> <br />Part 2, p. 342, 343 (continued): <br /> <br />Senator DOWNEY. I understood you this morning to say that there had been <br />memoranda signed by both Governments.. <br />Mr. TIPTON. I did not mean to convey. that impression. I meant that there <br />were- m.emoranda passed from the American negotiators to the Mexican negotiators <br />indicating plainly what the intent of the American negotiators. was; and there <br />Was not only one' there were several. As a result of that the American demands <br />were accepted and there was written into the treaty the present language which is <br />supposed to cover ~he situation. Whether it does or whether it does not is a question <br />,of interpretation of language and a question of legal interpretation of language. <br />But, the language is there to express an intentt and I know what the intent was. <br />' Senator DOWNEY. eon the part of the Unitea States? <br />Mr. Tr,PToN. On the p;ut of the Mexican negotIators. <br />Senator DOWNEY. Is the intent on the part of the Mj3xican negotiators e;;pressed <br />in writing? . <br />Mr. TIPTON. , I do not .know, sir.. but I am}ust telling you that as one.ofthe negotiators, <br />whether it was in writing or not, it was understood. [Emphasis supplied.] <br /> <br />The Mexican interpretation.-But now let us listen to the Mexican <br /> <br />negotiators, reporting to their Senate on the question of quality of <br />water: <br /> <br />~-. ,~. <br /> <br />"i <br /> <br />":"^i,<;-' <br />-,."., <br />" <br /> <br />-.,;- <br /> <br />I'\) <br />.0::.. <br />~ <br />~--\ <br /> <br /> <br />., <br /> <br />-'''''; ,. <br /> <br />; ~ <br />