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Douglas
Arapahoe
Community
Greenwood Village, Aurora
Stream Name
Cherry Creek
Basin
South Platte
Title
Probable Maximum Precipitation Study for Cherry Creek Reservoir - Related Technical Research Papers
Date
5/20/1990
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CWCB
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<br />, , <br /> <br />Day 2, Day 3" in Table 5 might have confused some since the text ofNWSI995 did not <br />take time to explain that a "Day" did not have to begin and end at midnight. The daily <br />period being referred to in NWS 1995 is, by convention, an unconstrained period oftime <br />and could begin at anv time, That being said, it is in the realm of likelihood to have the <br />most intense 6 hours of precipitation begin at or somewhat before I 0 P~, <br /> <br />We do not agree completely with the analysis presented in paragraph 5 on page 12, With <br />a front immediately south of the Cherry Creek target area during the day, light <br />precipitation produced by upslope flow could exist along with increasingly destabilized <br />columns of air aloft, The approach of forcing energy from the west or southwest <br />subsequently could act to relocate the front north of the target area, thereby making the <br />entire atmospheric column from the surface to the tropopause available for overturning as <br />well as for dynamically forced convection, <br /> <br />The larger hourly amounts in Table 5 ofNWS 1995 immediately preceding the most <br />intense 6 hours of precipitation could be repositioned to follow that period, with some of <br />the smaller amounts from other times replacing them. While such a selection might be <br />meteorologically somewhat more likely, such a rearrangement HAS NO BEARING upon <br />the values to be assigned to the most intense I-hour, 6-hour, "., or n-hour accumulated <br />basin averaged depths from which the hourly increments were extracted, <br /> <br />The basin averaged amounts shown in Table 4 ofNWSI995 are probable, These <br />amounts were developed from information found in HMR 55A (along with supporting <br />documents) which was produced according to rules adopted over decades of practice. <br />Any sequence of hourly amounts consistent with Table 4 would be acceptable for use in <br />developing the probable maximum flood and need not mimic the sequence found in any <br />one storm or collection of storms. We do not agree with the characterization that "The <br />NWS study did not identify this discrepancy." <br /> <br />The values shown in Table 4 do not depend on a specific storm chronology. The depth- <br />area-duration relations developed for HMR 55A, which played a role in creating the <br />values found in Table 2 ofNWS1995, and which in turn determined what the values of <br />Table 4 would be, were based on comparisons with known extreme storms, See Chapter <br />II ofHMR 55A for details on how these relationships were developed, <br /> <br />It appears that the authors ofIR#1 believe that if one gets a storm's hourly amounts <br />correct, the cumulative amounts will follow correctly. We agree, however if you "miss" <br />anyone ofthe hourly amounts, you will either underestimate or overestimate cumulative <br />PMP amounts for one or many durations. We would try to discourage anyone from <br />adopting such a "bottom-to-top" methodology. The NWS approach is to estimate the <br />cumulative PMP first and then arrive at possible temporal distributions. <br /> <br />9 <br />
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