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<br />'i <br /> <br />( <br /> <br />landscapes where we're seeking to sort out the destructive and incompatible uses and maybe not .- <br />say that they need to be equivalent to the standard of a national park. ., <br /> <br />Right here. <br /> <br />(How do you think your tenure will be remembered at Interior after you're gone? <br /> <br />Well, a year from now, the Golden Age ofthe Department ofInterior... <br /> <br />(LAUGHTER). <br /> <br />Okay, I'm told I can take one more question, then we gotta get out of here. Yes. <br /> <br />(Inaudible) <br /> <br />The question is, "What are you talking about in terms of size?" Well, what we do is look at <br />ecosystems, not visitor platforms or curiosities. Now, in the case of Grand Canyon that meant <br />another million acres to make it co-extensive with the drainage of the Grand Canyon. Not just a <br />pretty - a gorgeous view from the south rim - but that view has its origins in the mountains a <br />hundred miles away at 10,000 feet on the north rim - that's where the water comes from. <br /> <br />In southwestern Colorado the Anasazi civilization tended to use these finger mesas that come out <br />between McElmo(?) Creek, Montezuma Creek and the others - and that happens to be about a <br />quarter of a million acres. The President did an archaeological monument in central Arizona <br />called Ague Fria -- which is a really remarkably well-kept secret. It's a Landscape Monument. It <br />was a defensive community on the ramparts up above Phoenix and they've located line of sight <br />watchtowers and shown how these huge Pueblo ruins were built in defensive array around about <br />100,000 acres. The whole landscape is kind of a Masada in central Arizona. As a single ruin it's <br />not a very interesting place. But all of the sudden you think of Masada and how this all fits <br />together and it's a starburst of revelation and the protection is fitted to the landscape. <br /> <br />The debate in western Colorado was centered around two wilderness study areas and the <br />Colorado River. In the San Luis Valley I think we will begin by asking about how it is you <br />protect the water and land resources ofthat valley in relation to what's there. I don't know if that's <br />50,000 acres, or 100,000 or what. Ijust don't know. <br /> <br />Okay, thanks very much. <br /> <br />Jan Laitos: Thank you for attending. Secretary Babbitt is available to talk to the press for about <br />10-15 minutes up here possibly. Thank you very much for coming. <br /> <br />e <br /> <br />e <br />