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<br />MR. STAPLETON: <br />MR. BARNARD ,SR. : <br /> <br />1 <br /> <br />MR. MILLEN: <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />.1<Sti;j <br /> <br />"Thank you, Mr. Kuiper." <br /> <br />"I want to make this comment before <br />we ask Mr. Millen to tell you what they <br />have discovered briefly and that is that <br />certain questions, or we sought answers to <br />certain questions, in making these studies; <br />first for our own information as to the <br />benefits to be derived to us from the fill- <br />ing of Glen Canyon and second, to meet cer- <br />tain contentions which have been made by <br />the lower basin states with regard to the <br />disastrous effects on those states of the <br />withholding of water at Glen Canyon .and <br />among them is the contention we've heard <br />that, as a result of withholding water at <br />Glen Canyon, we would reduce the power which <br />could be generated at Hoover to such a point <br />that their amortization schedule could not <br />be met and second that it would result in <br />an increase in rafes, power rates, at Hoover <br />which would put it beyond what you might <br />term a competitive basis. In other words, <br />it would price the H~over power out of the <br />market. <br /> <br />We, I think, have found the answers <br />to that and I would like to have Mr. Millen <br />tell you in general what those results are." <br /> <br />"John I hesitate to discuss at any <br />length the electric aspect of this study <br />for the reason that Mr. McClellan and I have <br />not had a final opportunity to nail down <br />some of the precise figures as they are re- <br />lated to laying down thermal stations in <br />southern California to determine break even <br />costs. I had hoped to talk with him yester- <br />day but unfortunately had to leave a little <br />early and didn't have a chance to talk this <br />out. <br /> <br />Ours has been a very minor role in con- <br />tributing to this study. I want to say that, <br />but it has been most interesting for us and <br />we are pleased to offer this assistance. I <br />will not attempt to dwell at any length on <br />this very thorough study that Mr. McClellan <br />has made. I will say however, that as a <br />result of Len's hydroiogy stud~es they have <br />