BOARD01914

• Board Meeting Date: 12/4/1974
• Description: Agenda or Table of Contents, Minutes, Resolution
• Board Meetings - Doc Type: Meeting

Wildlife. A few general comments, one of the things Larry did mention
was that it is a staggering job. In order for us to provide all the
information to the board will take us twenty-man years. So far there
are two of us working on it part time. So you can see the problem.

We intend to step this up. The original charge given us was to make
recommendations for environmental purposes, as well as a wildlife agency I
relating to wildlife. We aren't going to confine them to fisheries per
se. We will make recommendations such as we did on the Arickaree. There
are no fish in the waters out there, but there is riparian. 'wildlife
associated with the eccosystem. We will be filing then on the headwaters
of most of the streams. We will be out in the flat lands too, fully
realizing that the act doesn't allow us to diminish anybody's use of
water.

We are using a system that is identical to the one used by the ~orest
Service. They have been in court close to a year and a half and they
have not had the system thrown out. So we believe it is a good one.
It is one used throughout the western United States for measuring flows.
As Mr. Moses implied. we do not intend to make a recommendation where
we come up short. We are getting right down to what Larry refers to as
the survival flow. We are not talking about optimum flows. The act
says be reasonable. I think we have done this. I think we will con-
tinue to do it.

You are asking us for a professional opinion and what it takes to support
a wildlife habitat. And that is what we are giving you essentially.
From here on we will probably be getting as many as a hundred filings
a year because it not only says streams, it says natural lakes too. We
have a lot of these. We have already gathered the information. so we
can submit these to you for your review.

It looks to me like we are all going to be shorthanded. We have been
working closely with the Forest Service. They gave us all of our
computor printouts. Without them, we wouldn't have one stream profile
from which to make a reasonable estimate of what the flows should be.
We hope to establish the capability of not only using the Forest Service
system. but the capability within our own division of computer printouts
through our own ADP and through Colorado State University. This will
mean we will be getting them to you a lot faster. As Larry says. we
are going to be in court a couple of thousand times. You are going to
need an expert witness on each one of these if you are going to question
how we do it each time or someone will. What we need to do is establish
first that the methodolo?y we use is acceptable. And of course, we
think it is or we wouldn t be using it. It is still going to take us
twenty-man years just to get you the information.

Mr. sxarks: Pete. the particular question that Mr. Pickrel raised was
on Ba ger Creek. What has been done on Badger Creek?

Mr. Barrows: I do have someone who is technically trained and knows
the system and made the study, perhaps he could best answer the question,
Mr. Kochman. Why don't you tell them what you did, Ed. Don't tell
them why you did it. just tell them what you did.

(laughter)

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