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<br />So here we were in Colorado" ~'having to put :scrubbers on and paying for <br />the premium product. And with the Fede~al Clean Air Act, which are very <br />tough standards,' meaning 'now that everybody has got .to put a: scrubber on, <br />that made :Colorado coal, the low sulphur 'coal, less valuable, and it <br />dropped the price to us, 'and we get the benefit. Not that I am :advoca- <br />ting putting scrubbers on low sulphur coal, but that is the net result <br />of what happened :to'~us~~. It helped us to the tune of at least 10 :dollar's <br />a 'ton. ' <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />MR. 'KROEGER: John, when you indicated 20 acre-feet, per megawatt per <br />year, that was just the 'cost for the ,scrubbers, or was that :total? <br /> <br />MR. BUGAS: No, that is total station use~. That 20 acre-feet is total <br />station use, where you run a zero discharge mode and you a~e using wet <br />limestone scrubbers to eliminate sulphur dioxide. <br /> <br />, <br />MR.: KROEGER: Are there other questions from the Board? (NO response.) <br /> <br />Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to ask? <br /> <br />SO? <br />~. <br /> <br />Okay, Chuck. <br /> <br />MR. THOMSON: <br />ing, now,' is <br />demands that <br /> <br />I'm Tommy Thomson from Pueblo. : This water you are acquir- <br />quite a bit of that agricultural water to meet these <br />you are foreseeing? <br /> <br />MR. BUGAS: Well, the 40,000 acre-feet was water that was known as "Four- <br />Counties Water." A felJ:ow by the name of Elliott -- maybe you a~e <br />familiar with him -- he cut a ditch across all of the upper reaches of <br />the streams of the Yampa River, and he got a decree to divert~ater from <br />the Yampa: River over into the Colorado River and by a scheme" Of exchange <br />was going to deliver that water to eastern Colorado. So we acquired <br />that, and we 'are now trying to put:that back into the.Yampa River. And <br />I would 'say the answer to your question is:, "NO, that water was not <br />going to be agricultural water. It was going to be used by whoever <br />wanted to pay the price for it in'eastern Colorado." <br /> <br />MR. KROEGER: Si, do you have a question? <br /> <br />MR. BERTHELSON: Mr. Chairman, I would like :to ask Mr., Bugas a question <br />about the social acceptance he has received up in the Yampa River <br />country.' We are involved in this matter of local development versus <br />export of energy. Mr. Sparks and everybody else~ hasc,:pointed out that <br />it will need to be resolved someday. There seems to be a fear among <br />some in the state, over and above the disciples of the squaw fish, that <br />we had better export this coal on pipe lines and on trains rather than <br />develop further; thinking that it causes great turmoil', and so forth. I <br />What has been your acceptance in the Yampa River and even over in the <br />White River country as to your developments, among county governments <br />and the cities and towns, and so forth? Are you getting your problems <br />worked out, and are you socially acceptable over in the area? <br />(Laughter .,) <br /> <br />MR. BUGAS: That is <br />Craig area, Colorado <br />of grew up together. <br /> <br />a tough question. <br />ute and the city <br />When we started <br /> <br />Let me say this -- I think in the <br />of Craig and Moffat County kind <br />the Craig project, I started to <br /> <br />-10- <br />