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<br />I <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />MR. SPARKS: <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />someone else can use it, can have it. <br />Our ancestors said the same thing when <br />they came to the great American desert. <br />All this land and the Indians and they <br />thought the Indians weren't using it for <br />beneficial use so they chased them off; <br />then they saw the grass there up to the <br />stirrups on the horses that they rode <br />and they said, "We'll put this to beneficial <br />use," so they brought thousands of cattle, <br />thousands of sheep and hundreds of goats <br />and, believe me, now in Texas you could <br />ride for hundreds and hundreds of miles <br />and what do you see? Nothing. Not much <br />grass, lots of brush, lots of cactus, lots <br />of mesquite and oak allover and that <br />wasn't there when our ancestors came there. <br /> <br />But they used it for beneficial use <br />as they thought. Now the buffalo are gone, <br />the grass is gone and all we have is big <br />bulldozers out there trying to eradicate <br />the cactus, get it back to grass. <br /> <br />You know what is going to happen when <br />you lower the water eight feet out between <br />Moffat and Hooper and Saguache, you lower <br />the water table sixteen feet and the rabbit <br />brush will dry -- the old brush that we <br />call "bruce weed" will dry and the grass <br />will go away and the sacatonewill be gone <br />and then it will blow away but we tried -- <br />started in to use it for beneficial use. <br /> <br />I'll ask Mr. Sparks to comment at <br />this point, if you will, Mr. Sparks? <br /> <br />I have just one comment. Pertaining <br />to the lowering of the water table. Now, <br />we have tried to emphasize throughout this <br />study that we are talking about water which <br />is lost by evaporation or transpiration. <br />There is approximately a million acre-feet <br />of water annually lost in the Closed Basin <br />drain which accomplishes no purpose whatso- <br />ever. We are talking about salvaging that <br />water, not lowering the water table up and <br />down the valley. <br />