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3720 irrigators, accumulated to 1961, indicates a value of $13,361,400. The total of flood benefits at that time, in terms of damages prevented, is estimated to be $18,800,000; and of the flood benefits estimated to have accrued from the dam, $11,000,000 of it is estimated to have accrued in 1955 when there was considerable flood condition on the river. I Practically all of this water would have been lost to the irrigator without this facil- ity. All of this water has been provided to the irrigator without direct cost to him. The downstream users are the principal benefici~ aries. However, upstream users may benefit by reason of the availability of river flow past their gates, by reason of the fact that down- stream senior appropriators demands are satisfied by the releases from the dam. In view of the fact that this facility was paid for by the taxpayer in general and is being maintained and operated by the taxpayer in general, it does seem extremely ungracious on the part of the irrigator to say to the general public that you shall not have this minimal benefit or enjoyment from this facility. In terms of fairness, it is hard to understand the opposition of the downstream users. By way of further review, may we point out that, according to the terms of the Arkan- sas River Compact, which has been ratified by the Legislatures of Colorado and Kansas and approved by Congress, this space above the dam is divided into two parts. These two pools are divided by an elevation figure of 3851, I believe. It is a little space on top of this elevation 3851 that we now seek the assurance of having so that any water that we acquire for the benefit of the fisheries, at the ex- pense of the sportsmen, will not be lost. I John Martin Dam is approximately three hours from the mountains with their outdoor recreational attractions. The area around John Martin, and for that matter, the great