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<br />'""', v'"'" <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />I think that will give you a little history <br />of why this was built. And I would say that <br />the farmers in the Arkansas Valley have spent <br />millions of dollars over the early history of <br />this thing trying to protect their rights and <br />also paying off damages. <br /> <br />In 1927, I think, the Governor of the <br />state of Colorado and the Governor of the <br />State of Kansas appointed men to try to re- <br />solve the dispute and the outgrowth of that <br />was the Kansas-Colorado Compact. Out of that <br />came the building of John Martin and the opera- <br />tion of John Martin. When there is a conser- <br />vation pool it comes under the jurisdiction <br />of the compact commission. They run it. The <br />water is distributed below the dam by agree- <br />ment. Three days before it becomes empty, it <br />goes under the jurisdiction of the State Engi- <br />neer. Right along that line I have asked Mr. <br />Sparks, on lines 16, 17, 18 and 19 of the <br />proposed legislation, where it says 'The rights <br />of irrigators in Colorado and Kansas to those <br />waters available to them under the terms of <br />the Arkansas River compact shall not be dimin- <br />ished nor impaired by anything contained in <br />this Act', to put in there after the word <br />'Compact', 'or under the state laws of the <br />respective states'. That is, that it be run <br />under the law of the State of Colorado as far <br />as Colorado is concerned and under the law of <br />Kansas as far as Kansas is concerned. <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />As I see these lines, 16, 17, 18 and 19, <br />there could be no loss whatsoever under those <br />terms because if there was water in the con- <br />servation pool, it would be run as it always <br />has been run. There would be no changes. <br />But it's when it is not in the conservation <br />pool, when it comes under the jurisdiction of <br />the State Engineer, that I want the adequate <br />protection for the irrigators to appear there <br />also. <br /> <br />I think the crux of the whole thing is, <br />how long is the dam going to last? I don't <br />