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I I MR. STAPLETON: MR. MILLEN: the reason the problem has come up, is because we feel that the Bureau has misapplied the in- formation which,all of us had been using in our joint studies and we feel that correcting the Bureau's report for the errors they made in their judgment, you would come up to exactly the oppo- site conclusion on this 4th criteria than the Bureau did. I'd like to now have Keith Millen, who has been intimately familiar with the engineering studies that have gone on in connection with this matter, make the presentation from here and then I'd like to have the privilege of making a few summary remarks if I could." "Keith. II "It's always difficult to follow Ralph as some of you may know, because in the mere act of ad-libbing he takes half of your presentation along with him. I enjoy it though. You do it well, Ralph. At the outset, and this by way of itera- tion, gentlemen, I would like to overlap Ralph just a little bit for the purpose of pointing out the depth and completeness with which the many studies of this transmission problem have been pursued, The first of such studies began over a year before the actual authorization of the project act which was in 1956, and these studies have been continuing in depth from that time until this date. Following the July '59 meet- ing which Ralph referred to, at which the Bureau, by direction of Congress, conferred with regional electric utilities and other interested parties on this problem of integrating the generating and transmission facilities of the Colorado River Storage Project with the generating and trans- mission facilities in Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming and Utah - following this con- ference, a comprehensive plan was presented by the investor-owned utilities. This was in Octo- ber. And this combination plan, basically a 230,000 volt system, provided for both utility and federal transmission lines to fully utilize