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<br />I <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />MR. SPARKS: <br /> <br />MR. CONOUR: <br /> <br />MR. SPARKS: <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />MR. CONOD.R: <br />MR. SPARKS: <br />MR. McCANDLESS: <br /> <br />1619 <br /> <br />interest rate is applied to them, that is, <br />the Colorado River formula. It is absolute- <br />ly imperative that this formula be reduced <br />in line with what other projects are paying <br />and what the Government is paying for money. <br /> <br />The Bureau of the Budget - I was back in <br />Washington about three weeks ago now on this <br />very problem, discussed it with the Bureau of <br />Reclamation, the Bureau of the Budget and Con- <br />gressional officials - and the Bureau of the <br />Budget has agreed, formally agreed, to come off <br />of the old interest rate which we are now sad- <br />dled with. They have approved the interest rate <br />which is set forth in this resolution." <br /> <br />"Larry, as clarification for me - when Sena- <br />tor Carroll talks about an average yield on <br />government securities, I usually think of yield <br />in terms of what the government bonds are now <br />selling for and arrive at a yield percentage. <br />What does that mean under the Colorado River <br />Storage Project Act?' <br /> <br />"Under the interest formula which we have <br />under the present Act, the words 'average <br />yield' is used. When I was in Washington we <br />had to get expert help on the interest rate <br />problem. Apparently there is a great differ- <br />ence between 'yield' and 'average rate of in- <br />terest paid'. I really can't explain the dif- <br />ference. All I know is that there is a dif- <br />ference which has something to do with the <br />market quotations." <br /> <br />"Mr. Sparks, that cuts both ways. If the <br />government securities go under par, then the <br />yield is considerably less than the interest <br />rate." <br /> <br />"That is correct but there is a trememdous <br />variation. In other words, we cannot figure <br />our project costs based upon this formula be- <br />cause it fluctuates so trememdously." <br /> <br />"It changes from day to day." <br /> <br />"That's the big handicap." <br /> <br />"Larry, does it mean now with that tele- <br />gram, that this resolution is not necessary?' <br />