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<br />location that. have absolute decrees by the City of Durango for its <br />storage water. I think Big Emerald and Little Emerald are similar <br />situations, where they have tremendously over estimated the amount of <br />water in these lakes. I am-kind of unhappy with the kind of work and <br />the kind of recommendations that are coming to us by our friends over <br />in this Division of Wildlife. I want to be on their side, but I don't <br />want to be made to look too stupid by accepting something that:is <br />totally unreasonable. I think that this needs to have a little more <br />homework done before it is presented to this Board. <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: Maybe Mr. Kochman can respond to that. <br /> <br />MR. KOCHMAN: My name is Eddie Kochman. I am with the Colorado Division <br />of Wildlife.- <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />We have listed it <br />data is accurate. <br />would put it at a <br /> <br />at two hundred and eighty-eight feet. <br />You mentioned eleven surface acres. <br />depth of somewhere around an average <br /> <br />I think our. <br />Well, that <br />of twenty feet. <br /> <br />MR. KROEGER: If it had parallel sides. If it. dropped like this. <br />(indicating) But when I waded out into it, it"doesn't drop like that. <br /> <br />MR. KOCHMAN: Right. We realize it doesn't drop like that. :We didn't <br />use an average depth of sixty feet, which would have given us over six <br />hundred acre-feet. I can't tell you right now what average depth we <br />did use. <br /> <br />MR. KROEGER: What about the situation as it relates to the City of <br />Durango's water claims on those lakes? <br /> <br />MR. KOCHMAN: Well, you know, in discussing with some people on the: <br />water board staff, the water engineer related' back that this was a <br />problem. Our position was and still is, or has been and still is, that <br />this is a conflict. And as far as dropping that lake, we certainly have <br />no objections. I think our data is correct.~ I'll stand by it and I <br />will'say that two hundred eighty-eight acre-feet is pretty accurate~ <br /> <br />Bill Wyler is here today. He is one of the regional biologists from <br />Montrose. And I think maybe Bill could speak as to some specifics as <br />far as that fishery is concerned. We recognized that it was within <br />private land. We recognized also from the information we'got back that <br />the City of Durango held a decree, a storage right on that. As I said <br />before, I think the two hundred and eight-eight acre-feet is a pretty <br />accurate figure. <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: Duane might have something. <br /> <br />MR. HELTON: Mr. Kroeger, we looked into the situation of Durango on <br />that particular lake and Durango's decree dates back to 1909. So we <br />didn't feel that there was any problem. If the City of Durango did not <br />choose to develop the lake, then our appropriation may have some benefit <br />in the future. We knew about the Durango decree. . <br /> <br />MR. KROEGER: I feel that both the amount has been grossly overstated <br /> <br />-16- <br />