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<br />'50s, the wet period here in the '60s, and then you go out through the more recent type here, got the <br />same curve, here's a dry period back here in the early 1980's, wet year, and then here we are right <br />now at the end of 2002 actually, we're in our dry period, but again, nothing atypical. And this is <br />true of all the stations, there's absolutely nothing unusual about our current situation. So I think <br />the bottom message is that there's no reason we couldn't have another dry winter, it's happened in <br />the past. We could have another dry two winters, three winters. And so I think one of the <br />questions is, in terms of preparation, we have to anticipate that at some point, whether it's now or a <br />decade from now, we are going to have these decade-long droughts, and we have to plan now, at <br />this time, as to what we would do if we had another dry winter, for example. What if we have 2 <br />dry winters? We have to plan on that. <br /> <br />_ - Is it fair to say that it is fairly typical thus far, and then if we have a bad snowpack next <br />winter, we're all back to the '50s before we get anything similar to it? <br /> <br />Roger - I agree. What I mean by being typical, means that it has happened in the last 100 years. <br />Not even considering the paleo-record, which you know, in the 16th century there was a 50-year <br />drought that occurred in Western North America. <br /> <br />- My point is, we'll all have to be very careful about how we word that, because if <br />there's any importance that came out of the California 6-year drought, was that they kept thinking <br />it was going to be better next year. We've got to be really careful. We have people who could <br />misinterpret that. <br /> <br />Roger - I think that we have to plan for the worse case situation. Reduce our vulnerability. I <br />agree. We shouldn't hope that it's going to be wet, we have to plan for it being dry. Let me make <br />one last connent. There is... where we go into the summer, and there is some research that had <br />suggested that drought can self-perpetuate. And there's a couple of reasons for that, and I think <br />this could be particularly true here in Colorado, and one of them is, when you have less <br />transpiration because the trees are stressed and they're irrigating less, and you're farming less, you <br />have less transpiration of water to fuel thunderstorms, and that's been demonstrated quite a bit. So <br />that makes a tendency for higher based thunderstorms if they do occur, because there's less water <br />available, and then less rainfall falls out of them. The second one is, it's been very well <br />documented by satellite that if you have more cloud condensation nuclei, the little particles that <br />help form the cloud droplets, if you have more of them because of dust or fire, they over-seed the <br />clouds and they tend to rain less too. And so, if you have a lot of dust storms, or you have a lot of <br />fires occurring. . . the heat from the fires in their immediate vicinity of course can generate a <br />shower or thunderstorm, but the dust itself, if it feeds in downstream to other storms, actually <br />tends to inhibit rainfall, and so there are two things that tend to perpetuate a drought and only a <br />large scale affects can overcome that, and Klaus will talk more about that, and maybe Bob. <br /> <br />- Add Jack's connent to that list about the absence of return flow would be the most <br />frequent concern at now. <br /> <br />Roger - Any questions? <br /> <br />22 <br />