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advisory council were designed to advise the agency, or if consensual advice is involved,this <br /> would trigger the many requirements of FACA.The council would have to have a charter and be <br /> approved by the General Services Administration. Members would have to be chosen from <br /> different groups to provide broad representation; appointments would have to be made by the <br /> Interior Secretary. <br /> Marsha asked what constitutes advice. If the group wants to come talk to an employee of the <br /> ranger district, does that violate the law? Mark said possibly. He said it is very time-consuming <br /> and expensive for the agency to be involved in such committees, and if there were one for each <br /> river group,the San Juan National Forest couldn't afford to provide a designated forest official <br /> for each council as required. He said it might be possible to organize the council so it is not <br /> giving advice but is a river-watch or river-monitoring group to bring issues to the agency's <br /> attention. <br /> Roadlessness: Marsha said Mely Whiting of TU had asked about the permanence of roadless <br /> status. Ann said it's more permanent than a local land-use plan but less permanent than <br /> legislation. <br /> Mark said roadless status is established by federal regulation through a very defined process <br /> that is more onerous than an environmental impact statement or a land-use plan. Right now <br /> Colorado is considering writing its own roadless rule rather than waiting for the national rule to <br /> be figured out. After the San Juan Public Lands revised land-use plan is finalized, local roadless <br /> areas are evaluated and the Colorado plan is enacted, local roadless areas will be established. <br /> Marsha said she had been asked whether, if the East Fork were to become a WSR, the road <br /> would be closed. Mark said that is not likely. Because the East Fork already has a road, it could <br /> only be classified as a recreational WSR, and roads are allowed under that classification. <br /> Meeting summaries: The minutes from April through October were approved. Marsha said if <br /> there are concerns about them,to bring those to her. <br /> Next steps: J.R. will talk to the owners of Boot Jack Ranch about their feelings regarding a <br /> zoning district, mineral withdrawal, deed restrictions and the advisory council. <br /> Information is needed on the following: <br /> • Ownership of the minerals on the East Fork Ranch conservation easement. <br /> • Whether there are examples of places where deed restrictions have been incorporated <br /> as part of the package in a trade-off for abandoning WSR consideration. Mark said he <br /> can research that. <br /> Next meeting: The next meeting will be on Thursday, Feb. 24,from 5:30 to 8:30 p.m., at the <br /> Ross Aragon Community Center in the easternmost conference room. <br /> 5 <br />