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Potter was much of the same as Monitor. Questions about the ORVs for Roubideau not being included, and whether or <br /> not there was a Jeep road in the area. One old hand in attendance said he remembered hunting down there, and there <br /> being road access, which would confuse the "wild" classification. Jim Riddel, who I think is an enviro, has done his <br /> homework. He knows a lot about the creeks, their history, who owns what, and is going to be an asset to these <br /> meetings, even if the ranchers don't agree with his viewpoint. <br /> Uses of Potter—grazing permits, recreation, etc. Questions for the BLM to answer next meeting include mineral rights, <br /> weed issues, and the extension of that Jeep road discussed. <br /> Roubideau Creek I —This segment, as explained by Ed, is up for designation on the National Register of Historic Places <br /> because of a carving by a Spanish explorer. The group questioned how this was an ORV—ie to be an ORV it must be <br /> directly associated with the stream. BLM justification is that, without the stream, the people would not have been <br /> there. No doubt, this is a cool cultural value. But we'll see if the group thinks that the connection with the stream is too <br /> tenuous. This section also has a grazing permit. There were questions as to the status of the leopard frog, and if it is <br /> really still being considered for listing. <br /> The group feels that BLM should be contacting private landowners in the middle of all this land, and let them know that <br /> this is going on. The BLM feels that they have done enough outreach. The group rumbled a little at that. They <br /> "encouraged" Ed to find out who these private parcels of land on these streams are and tell them this is happening. Jim <br /> Riddell volunteered to try and find out who all the landowners are and contact them. This area is included in the WSA, <br /> "temporary" protection that's been going on for 20 years now. <br /> The facilitator then went on to talk about the group's work plan, and I was actually happy to see that they are all moving <br /> forward, making progress comparatively. The plan is to present all the info about the 3 remaining creeks in the non-NCA <br /> plan —the creeks that Barb wants done first, at the next meeting. Then the facilitators will assemble info sheets with <br /> everything learned from stakeholders and BLM on these creeks, then move towards agreement on designation. <br /> Along those lines, at the next meeting Roubideau 2, Gunnison 2 will be discussed. <br /> Next meetings: December 20 from 7-9,January 10 from 7-9. There may be a new location with a better room if they can <br /> find one. <br /> I know this was long. If you made it this far without falling asleep, congrats. My general feel is that things are finally <br /> starting to move along. It's a rough process, and some of the ranchers think the facilitator is making things more <br /> complicated than need be, but I think they're finally getting somewhere. Any questions, send them my way. <br /> Thanks, <br /> Brent Newman <br /> Program Assistant, Interstate and Federal Section <br /> Colorado Water Conservation Board <br /> 1313 Sherman Street, Room 721 <br /> Denver, CO 80203 <br /> phone (303) 866-3441 Ext. 3222 <br /> email: brent.newman@state.co.us <br /> 2 <br />