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these are the kinds of economies of scale that you're talking
<br />about, and again the difference is if you leave water in the
<br />river, you make more money. And that, in this society of
<br />ours, is so often, too often, the bottom line.
<br />So, to begin summing up, there are strong arguments
<br />now for instream flows, not just the moral ones, the
<br />aesthetic ones, the selfish ones. You know, "I like riding lots
<br />of flow because I like whitewater rafting," which I do. I also
<br />like to fish, so I don't like dried-up rivers. But, there are
<br />now arguments that I think argue well for a whole region. It
<br />makes more sense in this era, in many cases, to leave water
<br />in the river than to take it out, and I'm talking economic
<br />sense. And that is maybe the best piece of news that I can
<br />give you.
<br />Now, the bad news is that we have a whole economy and
<br />way of life up here that is based on diversion. We have
<br />cowboy culture, ranch culture. Yesterday, l was along
<br />Snowmass Creek and the Frying Pan and Roaring Fork
<br />Rivers, and there seemed to be a pretty nice balance there.
<br />There was quite a bit of water in the rivers. The fishing was
<br />good, even though I couldn't catch any. And yet there was
<br />still some irrigation along the river and there were some of
<br />those nice green fields. Even some of us who want more
<br />instream flows might miss that irrigated pasture if it
<br />disappeared. So I'm not advocating what the cattle ranchers
<br />who always want to shoot me say I'm advocating. I'm not
<br />saying, "Get rid of every cow, and take it back to the
<br />Mississippi or to the east side of the Mississippi River where
<br />it can grow on rain." Even though, in any kind of metabolic
<br />sense, because cows are so ill-adapted to and conditions,
<br />that really makes sense. It doesn't make social sense to do
<br />that, at least not overnight. I think we have to really start
<br />rethinking pasture, rethinking alfalfa, rethinking diversions
<br />of water.
<br />Now, as Dennis was saying earlier, there are other
<br />politically easier ways to accomplish some of the things we
<br />want to do to put more water back in rivers. You can create
<br />pulses and, in fact, you need dams to do that. You can
<br />actually build dams in California and create better trout
<br />populations where they wouldn't have existed because of
<br />our extreme wet and dry-season patterns. But, generally
<br />speaking, I think these are measures that don't go far
<br />enough. What we really need to do is to rethink this whole
<br />frontier mentality that we've been living with for 100 years,
<br />which says that water is only good when you take it out of
<br />the river and it's no good when you leave it in. I actually
<br />think we're beyond the frontier mentality in our thinking,
<br />but it's in our institutions where we still have a long way to
<br />go.
<br />. So, we need laws like Oregon's law, where if you do have
<br />a water transfer, there is a tax. A 25 percent water tax where
<br />if, let's say, 1,000 acre feet of water that changes hands, 250
<br />acre feet go into the river for an instream flow or they go to
<br />a wetland someplace. We need minimum-flow laws that
<br />are better and stronger than the ones we have today. And
<br />they need to be solid and not fungible, as the lawyers say.
<br />Little Creek, coming down from Snowmass Creek, has a 12
<br />cfs minimum flow set in it, or it did by the Colorado River
<br />Conservation Board until Snowmass, the big ski operation,
<br />decided they needed to take 5 cfs out to make more snow,
<br />because there were so many skiers and the seasons have
<br />been so unreliable the last 20 years. Well, even though an
<br />independent report says you lose 100 percent of the brown
<br />trout in that creek (and they are in there) by taking out
<br />those 5 cfs, the Board decided that 7 cfs was the minimum
<br />flow needed after all. And a former resources secretary from
<br />the state of Colorado was the lawyer who made the
<br />argument. So those kinds of politics are bad politics.
<br />We need ironclad minimum flows, not flexible ones. I
<br />think we need stronger public-trust interpretations as we've
<br />finally begun to get them in the case of Mono Lake, where
<br />we recognize the water doesn't really belong to the user, it
<br />belongs to the people of a state and it has been borrowed.
<br />We allowed you to take this water out of the river for a
<br />beneficial use, but it's up to the public to decide when one
<br />beneficial use is no longer beneficial and another one comes
<br />along that is, and that is the essence, I think, of the Public
<br />Trust Doctrine, and it has to be taken further. And I'm
<br />going to have to say, because even though Dennis is co-
<br />sponsoring this conference, I can't really criticize the
<br />Bureau of Reclamation at all in a forum like this.
<br />We need more realistic water pricing. And, of course,
<br />poor Dennis, he's stuck with these 40-year water contracts
<br />where he gives a guy water for three bucks an acre in 1952,
<br />and he still has to give him $3 for an acre foot of water in
<br />1992 because it's the law. But there are certain reform bills
<br />before Congress right now, which some of you know
<br />about, which would begin to change some of these
<br />things-at least not give people free water for 40 years.
<br />Give them free water only for 10 or 15 years. These are the
<br />kinds of changes we need.
<br />I'm going to get away from economics and politics and
<br />end on an aesthetic note. I wrote a book called "Game
<br />Wars" which, in fact, I happen to have a few copies along
<br />for sale. This book is a profile of a fellow named Dave Hall,
<br />whom some of you may know, who is an undercover game
<br />warden for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service based in
<br />Louisiana. He's a crazy guy, as most undercover people are,
<br />but he's obsessed with wildlife and wilderness preservation.
<br />And I just want to echo what he says, how he feels about
<br />the modem world, and what our attitude toward it ought
<br />to be. Now, Dave is a waterfowl nut. His issue is not rivers,
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