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<br />that it is somehow my obligation to give up or limit or impair my
<br />long-based right to use that water in order to protect some
<br />species about which I hardly know and certainly have very little
<br />interest?" This has all the ingredients of a very, very serious kind
<br />of conflict. Nobody is going to be very interested in giving up a
<br />benefit that they hold in a situation like that. You can't just walk
<br />up to someone and say, "Give me some of your property, it
<br />would be good for society for you to do that." Not in this culture.
<br />Our culture values individual freedom and private property very
<br />highly. We wouldn't be very happy about that sort of request.
<br />So, looking at this from a legal perspective, we are now
<br />trying to understand the nature of the property right that
<br />individuals have, in fact, been given. That is the most critical
<br />question. Considering the question of water rights--does a
<br />"property right" in the case of water assure the holder some fixed
<br />quantity of water that is immune from any encroachment?
<br />Going back to the analogy with a private house, although I
<br />own that house and that land, I'm very accustomed to the idea
<br />that I can't build anything on that land that I want. It has been
<br />clear since the 1920s, at least, that governments have the right to
<br />zone land, which limits my ability to develop and use land in any
<br />way I wish. Landowners now understand and accept that. I also
<br />know, as a matter of nuisance law, that I can't use my property
<br />in any way that I like if my use will cause harm to other property
<br />interests or other individuals. Property owners understand that
<br />too, and they accept it.
<br />What I think we are doing now is asking questions about
<br />other kinds of limitations on property interests that extend to and
<br />include protection of public values. These values don't necessarily
<br />bring direct benefits to an individual. Also, they aren't recognized
<br />as clear exercises of the police power (as zoning is) and aren't
<br />based on the need to protect your fellow neighbor's property, or
<br />health, or well-being, but extend to public values that are not
<br />necessarily as well-established, such as ecosystem values.
<br />People are trying to emphasize the importance of viewing
<br />resource management issues in a broad way as one way to work
<br />around this problem. So we are beginning, on public lands, for
<br />example, to talk in terms of ecosystem management. But that's
<br />not enough. Habitats don't end at private property lines. We
<br />have to learn how to integrate private property within the public
<br />property of the West to truly have effective ecosystem
<br />management.
<br />Similarly, in the water resources area, we are thinking and
<br />talking a great deal more in terms of watersheds. Here it helps
<br />us to search for solutions that may be more creative than the
<br />more immediate solution that one might look to. As John has
<br />done in his program, it helps to look quite broadly within an
<br />entire watershed at a whole set of options. This is complicated.
<br />My sense is that the conflicts in this area are not amenable
<br />to a quick fix. There is no immediate change that is going
<br />happen here. There is no single answer. What is going on here
<br />is a process of evolution in the nature of a property right. People
<br />are beginning to understand that there may be good reasons to
<br />alter their image of property--that there are different notions of
<br />what the property interest is that they hold.
<br />On the other hand, society is struggling to determine what
<br />are reasonably-accepted intrusions into people's expectations
<br />about their rights on the use of property. How far can we go?
<br />We will have continued litigation on this--but we won't
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<br />If you look back at property interests, for example, in
<br />the water area, back long ago we used to have something
<br />called the "natural flow doctrine" in riparian water law. That
<br />meant that the flow of water in a stream could not be
<br />impaired in any way. That was the definition of riparian
<br />water law. Those who benefitted under that definition of
<br />riparian water law, of course, did not want to see that
<br />definition of their property interest in water altered. But it
<br />did change.
<br />It changed when we were no longer a country in which
<br />navigation and free-flowing streams were the highest value
<br />of water. We became an industrial country in which mills
<br />and water power became important. It then became
<br />necessary to control water to some degree in order to have
<br />these benefits. So we went to what was called "a reasonable
<br />use doctrine." This is one example of how the idea of
<br />property, the definition of property, has changed over time.
<br />Those changes were economically driven--they were made to
<br />meet societal needs. The question today is, do we want to
<br />alter the definition of property to meet societal values that
<br />are not driven by economics? That is clearly what we are
<br />talking about here.
<br />These conflicts today have to do with education. They
<br />have to do with getting people to begin to understand the
<br />broader world in which they live, where they begin to see
<br />outside their narrow property boundaries. They must begin
<br />to see that their property is part of a system; their water is
<br />part of a system. And, hopefully, they will find that there are
<br />some benefits to this broader view that will replace the
<br />benefits they lose through the older view.
<br />The transition will be a process implemented through
<br />the work of people like those in the Bureau of Reclamation.
<br />The Bureau, for instance, is starting to operate their water
<br />storage facilities in a different way than they used to in order
<br />to provide increased environmental benefits. So far, the
<br />Bureau has been able to provide deliveries without affecting
<br />any one's property or contract rights. But that situation is
<br />changing. California is faced with a very difficult decision in
<br />that respect. The Sacramento/San Joaquin Delta, the area
<br />that feeds into San Francisco Bay, has suffered enormous
<br />problems in water quality and fish habitat over the years.
<br />These problems have become so severe that the state is
<br />considering reducing the amount of water that agricultural
<br />and urban water users may take from the Delta. The State
<br />Water Resource Control Board issued an order that would
<br />have, in fact, reduced the historical diversion right of major
<br />water users in this part of California. This reallocation
<br />decision has been put on hold for now, but is likely to occur
<br />at some point. Is such an order a taking of the water users'
<br />property interest? Well, we'll see if litigation arises on that
<br />question. I don't think it is. I think you measure the property
<br />in a water right, not by quantity of water, but by benefits
<br />attained from that water. As long as you can generate
<br />equivalent benefits from the available resource, and there is
<br />a sound public purpose in reducing the quantity that you
<br />may have, that will sustain the Constitutional challenges. But
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