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<br />Compact. It interpreted the Boulder Canyon Project <br />Act and talked about the rights and authorities of the <br />secretary of Interior under the Boulder Canyon <br />Project Act. By allocating 7-112 million acre-feet out <br />of the main stem, it made clear what was obvious <br />under the Compact, and that was that the 1 million <br />acre-feet of additional development in the Lower <br />Basin is tributary development, and to the extent that <br />the Lower Basin has exceeded 8-1/2 million acre-feet, <br />the Upper Basin has no obligation to contribute to a <br />Mexican treaty delivery. <br /> <br />Muys: Speaking of that, Mike Ely keeps floating <br />through my mind because I practiced with him, but <br />the hardest rhing I ever did with Mike was help him <br />write a speech that he delivered to the town hall in <br />Los Angeles after the Supreme Court's decision in <br />Arizona v. California explaining how California really <br />won the case. Mike had a strong ego, like a lot of <br />water lawyers. <br />And the other thing he told me, and I assume it's <br />true, and I perpetuate it in a footnote someplace, is <br />that Justice Frankfurter had told him after the oral <br />arguments in Arizona v. California, which was the <br />longest in Supreme Court history at that time - I <br />think 16-1/2 hours - when the eight justices took a <br />straw vote, it was five to three to overturn the special <br />master's report and buy the California position. And <br />then after two justices retired over the summer and <br />Goldbergand White came on - we had six more <br />hours of argument - they went to another straw <br />vote, which was five to three the other way. So it is <br />from such fragile reeds great policy and legal <br />decisions are made. <br /> <br />QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE: A lot of <br />the material on this subject talks about the potential <br />reformation and rescission. And we have the seven <br />leaders of water in the seven states ... being asked <br />what would you want to change? And I heard nobody <br />say we should rescind or reform the Compact. Does <br />that mean we can avoid talking about that over the <br />next three days? <br /> <br />LOCHHEAD: If you interpret the Compact <br />as a 50-50 allocation between the Upper Basin and <br />Lower Basin, then there would be no need for <br />reformation. <br /> <br />Muys: Upper Basin writers have suggested that if <br />they had known how little water there was they never <br />would have agreed to the 75 million acre-feet 10-year <br />obligation. The Lower Basin says if they had known <br />how little there was, they never would have given the <br /> <br />Upper Basin so much water. I guess the reality is, it's <br />more than a contract after Congress approved it. It <br />became a statute, and I don't think any of us can <br />rescind it any longer. I think it's up to Congress. <br /> <br />QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE: Jerry and <br />several of the panelists have talked about the doctrine <br />of equitable apportionment. And I'm interested to <br />hear the seven different definitions of that, and how <br />that was brought into play here in the Compact <br />formulation. <br /> <br />PEARSON: Interestingly, the doctrine of equitable <br />apportionment raises to mind just simply that each <br />one of us can make an argument that there was <br />probably a need for more water somehow. Certainly <br />in California they <br />could say that <br />development justified <br />them getting more <br />water. They were the <br />senior user on the <br />system. In Arizona we <br />argue that we're a <br />major contributor to <br />the system and that <br />our tributaries of <br />course supply a <br />majority of the water <br />in the Lower Basin. <br />It's all a question of <br />how you look at the <br />Issue. <br />As a consequence <br />of that, I think that the decisions that have come <br />out through the Compact, through the court decree, <br />have really been very good decisions overall. It is a <br />working, living document, and so I have yet to hear a <br />really credible atgument to open up the Law of the <br />River again 75 years later, given the controversy that <br />has ensued over the last 75 years to develop a working <br />body of law to appropriate this system of water. It is a <br />remarkably viable document even today. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />STATES' <br />PERSPECTIVES <br /> <br />I heard nobody say we <br />should rescind or <br /> <br />reform the Compact. <br /> <br />Does that mean we <br /> <br />can avoid talking <br /> <br />about that over the <br /> <br />next three days? <br /> <br />- Question <br /> <br />QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE: It would <br /> <br />seem that the shortage problems have perhaps been <br />ameliorated by the federal government. Would <br />someone comment on whether a shortage really <br />exists? <br /> <br />LOCHHEAD: If you accept the view that the <br />Upper Basin is obligated to deliver an average of <br />7 -112 million acre-feet a year, plus or minus any share <br />of the Mexican treaty obligation, the Bureau of <br /> <br />SYMPOSIUM <br />PROCEEDINGS <br />MAY 1997 <br /> <br />o <br />