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<br />.' <br /> <br />100 <br /> <br />~ <br /> <br />~~~~ , <br /> <br />before weather modification experiments ean progress <br />much beyond the exploratory stage. At the same time, it <br />'is no surprise that these discussants found some meteo- <br />rologists who felt that they already had such an ability. <br />This is implicit in all commercial cloud seeding activities. <br />It would be interesting to go back to their respondents <br />and ask about the evidence ~pon which such feelings <br />were based, so that the authors could form their own. <br />opinions on this matter. Clearly, if a group of meteo- <br />rologists really do have the ability to predict, a priori, <br />additive units in cloud seeding for rain enhancement or <br />hail suppression, then such ability should be incorporated <br />immediately into the design of confirmatory experiments. <br />I would like to amplify a point raised by these discus- <br />sants. In cloud seeding for rain enhancement, commercial <br />operators normally intentionally choose naturally rainy <br />days. Many research projects try to eliminate both exces- <br />sively dry and wet days. The reason is that present seed- <br />ing techniques for rain "enhancement" simply cannot be <br />effective when natural conditions are not favorable for <br />rain, and we believe that seeding effects are relatively <br />small and, harder to detect during very heavy natural <br />rains. <br /> <br /> <br />>ill' <br />[ij <br /> <br />I <br />I: <br /> <br />Dawkim-Scott: AB a meteorologist I am unable to <br />comment adequately about the use of the C(O!) teat and <br />the statement that it is more powerful and more valid <br />than the several tests employed in the analysis of White- <br />top data. I note, however, that at least one other discus- <br />sant is of the view that simple robust techniques seem to <br />be indicated at this stage in our understanding. Additional <br />discussion on the pros and cons of this test will be found <br />in the 1973 National Academy of Sciences report (pp. <br />216-222). <br />In discussing the 24-hour rainfall analyses, these discus- <br />sants found that their analysis was insensitive to the <br />gage density, and they suggest that this was contrary to <br />a statement in my article. It should be remembered that <br />rainfall measurement errors associated with gage spacing <br />depend upon the type of storms sampled, plus the time <br />duration and area over which. the integration is per- <br />formed. In our Whitetop analysis, we used one-hour time <br />intervals for determining plume and nonplume, and our <br />maximum area of interest was the 6O-mile-radius re- <br />search circle. In this case, the requirements on gage <br />spacing are quite different from those for 24-hour integra- <br />tions over much larger areas. Several studies have been <br />carried out to determine how rainfall estimates are <br />affected by'size of area sampled, gage density, and storm <br />type. Interested readers should refer to Huff (1971). <br />In response to the discussion about experimental days <br />that did or did not meet the selection criteria, recall that <br />the criteria were used to help us select days thought to be <br />generally favorable for the experiment and should not be <br />construed as a hypothesis for any particular seeding <br />effect. As shown by Braham (1966), these criteria per- <br />formed quite well, since precipitation occurred somewhere <br />in the research, circle on over 90 percent of the experi- <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Journal of the American Statistical Associcltion, March 1979 <br /> <br />mental days, but on less than half of the nonexperimental <br />days. To stratify Whitetop data according to 'whether <br />the winds at a number of levels, and oyer a considerable <br />portion of the day, remained within criteria limits' is an <br />interesting exercise; but as a meteorologist, I ask why it <br />has any particular merit over countles:s other stratifica- <br />tions in looking for, lI.nd in judging, seeding effects. I also <br />would comment tha,t labeling some of these stratifica- <br />tions "Braham days'" or "non-Braham days" was a little <br />misleading, since they have little to do with the criteria, <br />and the logic behind the criteria,' which I introduced in <br />the prescreening step. <br />The stratification into air-mass and frontal weather <br />has meteorological foundation, though its value in in- <br />terpreting Whitetop is diminished because it was applied <br />to 24-hour rain total over a circle 180 miles in radius. <br />Over such a large space-time dimension, for the season <br />and region in question, one may often find only air-mass <br />convection. Seldom would frontal convection dominate. <br />In additioD, one sho'~ld note that the upwind-downwind <br />specification in Figures C and D is based on the direction <br />of our middle seeding site from our radar. This C01?"e- <br />sponds to our early-morning forecast for the midday lower- <br />level winds inside ou.r 6O-mile-radius research circle. The <br />analyses might be more interpretable if Dawkins and <br />Scott had made use 'of actually measured winds through- <br />out the 24-hour period, and at the levels of importance in <br />the meteorological model being examined. <br />TheBe discussants, raise a question about 30 days, <br />during the five summers, which were not included in the <br />experiment even though they apparently met the selec- <br />tion criteria. (V alue8 for all three criteria for every day <br />of our experiment are found in Braham. 1966.) They also <br />question another 22 days which were included in spite of <br />the faet that they fLppeared to fall outside the .criteria <br />limits. Both of these conditions were discussed in our <br />reporu;, but exact dll.tea and reasons were not listed. To <br />complete the record, such a list is given here. <br />Conl~erning the 30 "missing days": Two days, 17 July <br />1961 llmd 3 July 1964, actually were outside criteria <br />limits, thus not missing at all, but were reported as being <br />on the limits of acceptability because 'of rounding. Five <br />days in 1964 were Sundays, declared to be "days-off" <br />prior to the start of the season (14 and 21 June, 5 July, <br />2 and ao August). On the afternoon of 29 July 1961, after <br />we hadl worked a string of 21 consecutive days, I declared <br />that the next day (30 July 1961) would be nonexperi-' <br />mental (I deemed this necessary for crew morale). Five <br />days in 1960 (24, 25, and 27 July, 7 and 8 August) and <br />two in 1961 (12 and 13 June) were declared nonexperi- <br />mental because we knew before the day started that our <br />radar l~cope cameras (main and spare) were inoperative <br />(in fac:t, we were involved in flying them to a Chicago <br />manuf:!l.cturer for emergency repair service). 1 declared. <br />17 June 1962 to be Donoperational because the radar was <br />known to be inoperative before the envelope was opened <br />(cases where the radar went down during a day were left <br />in the experiment). <br /> <br />