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<br />much beyond the exploratory stage. At the same time, it
<br />'is no surprise that these discussants found some meteo-
<br />rologists who felt that they already had such an ability.
<br />This is implicit in all commercial cloud seeding activities.
<br />It would be interesting to go back to their respondents
<br />and ask about the evidence ~pon which such feelings
<br />were based, so that the authors could form their own.
<br />opinions on this matter. Clearly, if a group of meteo-
<br />rologists really do have the ability to predict, a priori,
<br />additive units in cloud seeding for rain enhancement or
<br />hail suppression, then such ability should be incorporated
<br />immediately into the design of confirmatory experiments.
<br />I would like to amplify a point raised by these discus-
<br />sants. In cloud seeding for rain enhancement, commercial
<br />operators normally intentionally choose naturally rainy
<br />days. Many research projects try to eliminate both exces-
<br />sively dry and wet days. The reason is that present seed-
<br />ing techniques for rain "enhancement" simply cannot be
<br />effective when natural conditions are not favorable for
<br />rain, and we believe that seeding effects are relatively
<br />small and, harder to detect during very heavy natural
<br />rains.
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<br />Dawkim-Scott: AB a meteorologist I am unable to
<br />comment adequately about the use of the C(O!) teat and
<br />the statement that it is more powerful and more valid
<br />than the several tests employed in the analysis of White-
<br />top data. I note, however, that at least one other discus-
<br />sant is of the view that simple robust techniques seem to
<br />be indicated at this stage in our understanding. Additional
<br />discussion on the pros and cons of this test will be found
<br />in the 1973 National Academy of Sciences report (pp.
<br />216-222).
<br />In discussing the 24-hour rainfall analyses, these discus-
<br />sants found that their analysis was insensitive to the
<br />gage density, and they suggest that this was contrary to
<br />a statement in my article. It should be remembered that
<br />rainfall measurement errors associated with gage spacing
<br />depend upon the type of storms sampled, plus the time
<br />duration and area over which. the integration is per-
<br />formed. In our Whitetop analysis, we used one-hour time
<br />intervals for determining plume and nonplume, and our
<br />maximum area of interest was the 6O-mile-radius re-
<br />search circle. In this case, the requirements on gage
<br />spacing are quite different from those for 24-hour integra-
<br />tions over much larger areas. Several studies have been
<br />carried out to determine how rainfall estimates are
<br />affected by'size of area sampled, gage density, and storm
<br />type. Interested readers should refer to Huff (1971).
<br />In response to the discussion about experimental days
<br />that did or did not meet the selection criteria, recall that
<br />the criteria were used to help us select days thought to be
<br />generally favorable for the experiment and should not be
<br />construed as a hypothesis for any particular seeding
<br />effect. As shown by Braham (1966), these criteria per-
<br />formed quite well, since precipitation occurred somewhere
<br />in the research, circle on over 90 percent of the experi-
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<br />mental days, but on less than half of the nonexperimental
<br />days. To stratify Whitetop data according to 'whether
<br />the winds at a number of levels, and oyer a considerable
<br />portion of the day, remained within criteria limits' is an
<br />interesting exercise; but as a meteorologist, I ask why it
<br />has any particular merit over countles:s other stratifica-
<br />tions in looking for, lI.nd in judging, seeding effects. I also
<br />would comment tha,t labeling some of these stratifica-
<br />tions "Braham days'" or "non-Braham days" was a little
<br />misleading, since they have little to do with the criteria,
<br />and the logic behind the criteria,' which I introduced in
<br />the prescreening step.
<br />The stratification into air-mass and frontal weather
<br />has meteorological foundation, though its value in in-
<br />terpreting Whitetop is diminished because it was applied
<br />to 24-hour rain total over a circle 180 miles in radius.
<br />Over such a large space-time dimension, for the season
<br />and region in question, one may often find only air-mass
<br />convection. Seldom would frontal convection dominate.
<br />In additioD, one sho'~ld note that the upwind-downwind
<br />specification in Figures C and D is based on the direction
<br />of our middle seeding site from our radar. This C01?"e-
<br />sponds to our early-morning forecast for the midday lower-
<br />level winds inside ou.r 6O-mile-radius research circle. The
<br />analyses might be more interpretable if Dawkins and
<br />Scott had made use 'of actually measured winds through-
<br />out the 24-hour period, and at the levels of importance in
<br />the meteorological model being examined.
<br />TheBe discussants, raise a question about 30 days,
<br />during the five summers, which were not included in the
<br />experiment even though they apparently met the selec-
<br />tion criteria. (V alue8 for all three criteria for every day
<br />of our experiment are found in Braham. 1966.) They also
<br />question another 22 days which were included in spite of
<br />the faet that they fLppeared to fall outside the .criteria
<br />limits. Both of these conditions were discussed in our
<br />reporu;, but exact dll.tea and reasons were not listed. To
<br />complete the record, such a list is given here.
<br />Conl~erning the 30 "missing days": Two days, 17 July
<br />1961 llmd 3 July 1964, actually were outside criteria
<br />limits, thus not missing at all, but were reported as being
<br />on the limits of acceptability because 'of rounding. Five
<br />days in 1964 were Sundays, declared to be "days-off"
<br />prior to the start of the season (14 and 21 June, 5 July,
<br />2 and ao August). On the afternoon of 29 July 1961, after
<br />we hadl worked a string of 21 consecutive days, I declared
<br />that the next day (30 July 1961) would be nonexperi-'
<br />mental (I deemed this necessary for crew morale). Five
<br />days in 1960 (24, 25, and 27 July, 7 and 8 August) and
<br />two in 1961 (12 and 13 June) were declared nonexperi-
<br />mental because we knew before the day started that our
<br />radar l~cope cameras (main and spare) were inoperative
<br />(in fac:t, we were involved in flying them to a Chicago
<br />manuf:!l.cturer for emergency repair service). 1 declared.
<br />17 June 1962 to be Donoperational because the radar was
<br />known to be inoperative before the envelope was opened
<br />(cases where the radar went down during a day were left
<br />in the experiment).
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