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<br />.. <br /> <br />90a <br /> <br />Dr. Braham emphasizes the problems that arise from <br />lack of a strong, accurate, easily applied model, and from <br />problems of execution of the experiments. If the most <br />earefully controlled experiments face difficulties in execu- <br />tion and interpretation, how can we expect ro get much <br />information from nonrandomized commercial studies as <br />suggested by Dr. Braham at the close of Section 51 Dr. <br />Braham tells us that the current physical theory is not <br />adequate, but such theory is usually the basis for <br />strengthening nonrandomized analyses. Possibly these <br />studies contain information of a different kind that would <br />be useful for policy. For example, they may suggest con- <br />straints that should be put on two or more commercial <br />enterprises operating in the same neighborhood or region, <br />where the enterprises might nullify one another's efforts <br />or create effects different from those desired. Or perhaps <br />these studies co:uld provide suggestions for organization <br />or reporting. At the conference mentioned previously, the <br />members discussed the preservation and exchange of <br />data. They suggested that the feasibility of creating a <br />central reposirory for data from weather modification <br />experiments be explored. The Panel went further and <br />recommended that <br /> <br />NOAA [National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration] <br />create a Repository for Data on Weather-Modification Activi- <br /> <br />JERZY NEYMAN* <br /> <br />Journal of the American Statistical Association, March 1979 <br /> <br />ties" which, at a suitable price, will make available for re- <br />analysis complete data on these activities (Committee on <br />Atmospheric Sciences 1973, p. 198). <br /> <br />With respect ro disagreements about reanalyses (men- <br /> <br />tioned in the third point of Braham's summary), the <br /> <br />Panel said (Committee on Atmosphelic Sciences 1973, <br /> <br />p. 198) : <br /> <br />We anticipate that there may be substantial disagreements <br />about the outcomes of such reanalyses. In spite of this, argu- <br />mellts between scholars who have made deep analyses are likely <br />to IDe more productive than among those making superficial <br />analyses. <br /> <br />REFERENCES <br /> <br />Changnon, A., Jr., Farhar, Barbara C., and Swanson, Earl R. (1978), <br />"Hail Suppression and Society," Science, 200, 387-394. <br />Committee on Atmospheric Sciences (1973), Weather and Climate <br />ModiJ'icaticm: Problerm and Progress, Washington, D.C.: National <br />Research Council, National Academy of Sciences. <br />Fairley, William, and Mosteller, Frederick (1977), Statiatica and <br />Publu: Policy, Reading, Mass.: Addison-Wesley Publishing Co. <br />Howard, Ronald, Matheson, James E., and North, D. Warner (1972), <br />"The Decision to Seed Hunicanes," Science, 176, 1191-1202; <br />followed by Power, Bernard A., and Kates, Robert W. (1973), <br />"Letters to the Editor on Seeding Hurricanes," with reply by <br />Howard, Matheson, and North, Science, 179, 744-747; followed <br />by Sundqvist, Hilding (1973), "Letter to the Editor on Hunicane <br />Seeding Analysis," and reply by Howard, Matheson, and North, <br />Scienl:e, 181, 1072-1073. <br /> <br />Comment <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />In his nicely formulated article, Professor Braham calls <br />for closer contacts and cooperation between meteorol- <br />ogists engaged in weather modification, on the one hand, . <br />and statisticians on the other. On this point we are in full <br />agreement. I also agree with Braham that the study of <br />effects of cloud seeding is useful for mathematical sta- <br />tistics. As with any complex natural phenomenon, efforts <br />ro evaluate the effects of cloud seeding generate in- <br />teresting problems in the theory of statistical tests. An- <br />other important point of agreement is Braham's assertion <br />that "theories of cloud response ro seeding ... are <br />simplistic and inadequate." <br />However, we do have important disagreements. The <br />following remarks are formulated with reference ro Pro- <br />fessor Braham's somewhat emphatic regrets about <br /> <br />· Jerzy Neyman is Director of the Statistical Laboratory, Depart- <br />ment of Statistics, University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720. <br />This discussion was prepared with the partial support of the Office of <br />Naval Research, Contract No. ONR-NOOOI4-75-C-OI59, and of the <br />U.S. Army Research Office, Grant No. DA AG 29 76 G 0167. All the <br />opinions expressed in this discussion are those of the author. <br /> <br /> <br />"Neyman and his associates in Berkeley." These remarks <br />will include Braham's Tables 1 and 2. <br />The principal point of disagreement between Professor <br />Braham and myself is his philosophical attitude expressed <br />in the statement: . <br /> <br />As physical scientists, we naturally think in terms of physical <br />models. We are inclined to accept evidence which seems com- <br />patible with established meteorological physics, even though it <br />ma,y have modest statistical support, over evidence that runs <br />counter to accepted physics, even though the latter may have <br />stl"onger "statistical" support. <br /> <br />As a research worker interested in understanding the <br />atmospheric phenomena connected with cloud seeding, I <br />am skeptical of any preconceived idea (e.g., "established <br />meteorological physics"). This skepticism is supported by <br />Braham's own assertion just quoted, "theories of cloud <br />response ... are simplistic and inadequate." My phi- <br />losophy is: (i) to find out what the fact,.c; are (which is the <br />"explorarory" phase of the study), (ii) to verify the <br />generi~lity of these facts (confirmarory phase), and, in the <br /> <br />