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<br />Reprinted from JOURNAL OF ApPLIED METEOROLOGY, Vol. 30. No.6, June 1991 <br />American Meteorological Socif'ty <br /> <br />Comments on "Further Exploratory Evaluations of Grossversuch IV Using Hailpad Data: <br />Analysis of Hail Patterns and Stratification by Storm Type for Seeding Efl'ect" <br /> <br />A. S. DENNIS <br /> <br />United States Bureau of Reclamation, Denver, Colorado <br /> <br />PAUL L. SMITH AND JAMES R. MILLER, JR. <br />Institute of Atmospheric Sciences, South Dakota School of Mines and Technology, Rapid City, South Dakota <br />14 September 1990 <br /> <br />The article by J.-F. Mezeix (1990) provides a num- <br />ber of detailed analyses of hail pad data collected during <br />Grossversuch IV and interesting suggestions for future <br />hail suppression experiments. His suggestion that future <br />experiments take into account the possibility of dy- <br />namic effects of seeding appears to be particularly <br />valuable. However, two points, which are made more <br />than once in the article, and one omission puzzle us. <br />In his conclusion, the author states that "to our <br />knowledge, none of the experiments conducted to date <br />have dealt directly with a possible effect on the hailed <br />area. In other words, the area factor has never been <br />controlled." As operational cloud seeders have been <br />attempting for years to reduce the areas affected by <br />damaging hail as well as hail intensity, it is reasonable <br />that an area of hailfall be used as a response variable <br />in hail suppression experiments. In fact, area of hail fall <br />is listed as a secondary response variable (SG) in the <br />paper "Main Results of Grossversuch IV" of which <br />Dr. Mezeix is a coauthor (Federer et al. 1986). Perhaps <br />it was because of the close correlation between SG and <br />global hailpad kinetic energy EG, which was a primary <br />response variable in Grossversuch IV, that the designers <br />did not think it necessary to include SG in the list of <br />primary response variables. An evaluation of a ran- <br />domized crossover experiment in the Greek National <br />Hail Suppression Program (Flueck et al. 1986) in- <br />cluded as response variables the numbers and per- <br />centages of hail pads hit; these are essentially measures <br />of the hailed areas. Changes in the area hailed by in- <br />dividual storms would also be reflected in seasonal <br />summaries of insured losses, which have been used to <br />evaluate operational hail suppression projects in the <br />north-central United States (e.g., Dennis et al. 1980; <br />Miller and Fuhs 1987; Smith et al. 1987) and France <br />(Dessens 1986). <br /> <br />Corresponding author address: Dr. Arnett S. Dennis, Water Aug- <br />mentation Group, Mail code 0-3720, Bureau of Reclamation, P. O. <br />Box 25007, Denver, CO 80225-0007. <br /> <br />The second point concerns the accumulation zone <br />hypothesis, which we understand to require the pres- <br />ence of supercooled rather than frozen raindrops. Only <br />if such supercooled drops are present can the seeding <br />as practiced in Grossversuch IV produce additional <br />hailstone embryos quickly enough to have significant <br />impact on the hail development. In discussing a fa- <br />vorable but inconclusive statistical result for type I <br />storms (single evolution cells), Mezeix ( 1990) states <br />that "as a result of seeding in the -50 to --lOoC zone, <br />there could be rapid formation and additional frozen <br />drop embryos in a high water content zone (accu- <br />mulation zone) followed by sufficient embryo com- <br />petition for melting to give a reduced number of hail- <br />stones during the hailfall." Data collected during <br />Grossversuch IV by the South Dakota School of Mines <br />and Technology T -28 aircraft in 1982 and 1983 showed <br />that at the -80C level the high-reflectivity zones in the <br />( nonseeded) hailstorms studied contained frozen pre- <br />cipitation particles rather than supercooled raindrops <br />(Waldvogel et al. 1987). It is true that the T-28 pen- <br />etrated only one "type I" storm, on 21 June 1983, <br />which evidently produced no hail at the ground. Wald- <br />vogel et al. did not discuss that storm in detail, largely <br />because the radar-identified big drop zone (rBDZ) <br />signature was no longer present during the aircraft <br />penetrations. However, the observations show that even <br />on the first penetration shortly after conditions had <br />dropped below the rBDZ criteria, only ice particles <br />much like those reported in the other storms investi- <br />gated were present in the high reflectivity-updraft zone. <br />Recently reported polarimetric radar observations <br />(Holler 1990) from a region not far away from the <br />Grossversuch IV site also provide no indication that <br />the rBDZ of a storm contains any accumulation of <br />large supercooled raindrops. <br />It is difficult to see how seeding of such zones with <br />artificial ice nuclei could lead to formation of additional <br />hail embryos capable of competing against the natural <br />t:mbryos already present. We suggest that any future <br />