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P. Binn~ey: Efficiency of water systems. Lots of interest in conservation and the like. Watershed <br />management instead of individual approaches, sharing of what has been done. Respect for <br />environment and recreation values and how to work them in so they are not cross-purpose <br />from M&I. Didn't see anything about the economics of water development -funding at local <br />level not federal. Debate the issue of whether the state is not just regulatory but also fiinding. <br />M. Catlin: Thought this was a great opportuiuty to tall{ about the Colorado we want to end up <br />with. Thai~lcs for having the IBCC do this exercise. It was interesting to see how many <br />different people recognize the same problems. From a community point of view - we have <br />always been a state that we have what we needed and if we had the desire we do what we <br />need to. We may be the last generation to have that and we have to realize that moving <br />forward we may not have all that we need. We need to decide what we want to go on and <br />what we want to keep. If we say we are going to trade this acre of irrigated land for a <br />development or the environment. There is a give and a take. That is a foreign concept for <br />Colorado. And without an orgaiuzed path we may have people get hurt instead of having the <br />state be leader in making Colorado a good place to live. On the western slop we have water <br />but it is harder to make a living over there for a number of reasons. Uncompahgre system is a <br />very efficient system (use water 5-6 times). The success that we have had in the past -those <br />people are still in this state but they may have different names. Mr. Farr and others got us to <br />this place. It is now our turn to envision where we are going and how we are going to get <br />there. I don't lc~7ow how we are going to sustain agriculture of any sort. The American people <br />have decided that they will pay anything for recreation and not much for food. Folks are <br />selling their water and these people's children do not want to take over family farms. <br />Colorado is a special place to live and water makes it so. The tuiu7el helped during the 2002 <br />drought and they had a green spot during the drought and people wanted to live there. I don't <br />particularly care for growth but you can't progress unless you grow. We have three types of <br />folks in our basin -those that hate growth, those cashing in on growth, and those wishing we <br />had the money to get in on it. It is to the point if we want to be the state we have been we <br />need to look at how can we sustain agriculture and how can we manage the growth. Not sure <br />that the growth numbers will be as high as today. We can't afford to not have growth because <br />of the number of jobs that it creates (from the timber salesman to mortgage broker). We may <br />have to demand as a state that you can oiily have a percentage of your lot landscaped. We are <br />going to have to start at home in our yard, community's yards, my region, and my state. We <br />need to thii~lc about it in this way. <br />M. Kasen: I want to pickup on a couple of things that Marc said. Colorado is not a state that <br />has promoted or valued planning historically. Saw a lot of commonalities in the IBCC <br />members' status quo prediction and many of same hopes for a vision. It seems to me that the <br />issue is implementing a vision when the state is not a planning state. A challenge in changing <br />the water future is that the prior appropriation system allows for individuals to develop water. <br />One of the reasons the IBCC was created was to talk about a different more collaborative <br />way of doing that development. The harder conversation is not what the vision is but that <br />existing institutions may not allow the vision to occur. My organization tries to stay within <br />the existing system. Energy production may also be a lynchpin for our fixture as well as <br />water. The balance is not to take more away from fish. We should be able to use our compact <br />deliveries to meet nonconsumptive needs; the hard part will be timing and the spatial issues <br />4 <br />