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<br />Bryan Howard, Rep. Udall-Given that we have ability to move forward on a number of <br />CW A sites, and given Sen. Boxer's comments, we need to be pragmatic. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />Jon Pallow-He needs to make recommendations to his boss. Should there be CW A <br />and/or CERCLA? Pragmatism vs. Ideology. Do we need to take actions to clean up or <br />not? Brownfields was successful. <br /> <br />Standard <br /> <br />Cathy Carlson-the Remediation Plan will really drive the standard. It essentially <br />becomes the standard. <br /> <br />Joan Card-true. The objective is to have an open process, and try to get agreement on <br />the front end of the process. <br /> <br />Michael Gianotto- Will send language. <br /> <br />Joe Pizarchik-This strawman language gets to the heart of the problem from PA's <br />experience. It addresses both limited resources and what is technologically achievable. <br />Needs to be on a case~by-case basis. Science needs to drive as much as resources. <br /> <br />Velma Smith-The John Salazar bill had more meat to it on this issue. Can't make the <br />site worse. Should work in watershed context. States could focus on priority watersheds <br />identified after public comment. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />Steve Quarles-l)"reasonable certainty": don't like this language. What is Unreasonable <br />certainty? <br />2) Real problem is strawman needs to allow someone to survey. Need rulemaking <br />authority for streamlined permit for surveying. Will send us language. <br /> <br />Velma Smith-suggested tying the idea of setting priorities to allowing investigative <br />sampling. <br /> <br />Definition of Good Samaritan <br /> <br />Velma Smith-Need another level of criteria. Definition of "inactive or abandoned <br />mine": Shouldn't allow mining companies with liability elsewhere to be good sams. <br />Need language that would preclude anyone with a cleanup or enforcement action. <br /> <br />Marcelle Shoop, Rio Tinto-If it is an administrative order, and the mining company is <br />in compliance, they would be precluded under Velma's language. Why should they be? <br /> <br />Joe Pizarchik-P A has experience with this under their program. They use "satisfactory <br />progress" language from coal. He will send us this language. <br /> <br />Michael Gianotto- There are violations. And then there are Violations! <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />4 <br />