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<br />Western States Water Council <br />Water Resources Committee Minutes <br /> <br />Washington, D.C. <br />March 28, 2006 <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />gages. Looking beyond 2007, we have had many conversations with Mark Limbaugh. He is holding our <br />feet to the fire. He wants to go to bat for us, but he needs evidence as to why we need increases in order <br />to keep the network working." <br /> <br />We need to do more comparison studies to find out how much it costs to run a gaging system. <br />The Washington Department of Ecology and Colorado State Engineer's Office have helped us <br />understand their operations and the cost structure for the gaging they do. USGS found that the <br />Washington's and Colorado's costs were substantially below USGS's costs for gaging. USGS then <br />needed to look at the gaging products to determine how they differed. In the case of Colorado, their <br />gages can be very analogous to the USGS gages, but others are only operational gages (i.e., the data are <br />not maintained on a long-term network). Thus, the comparison is kind of "apples and oranges." In the <br />case of Washington, we found a very substantial difference in the way the work is done. Flow <br />measurements are done on the order of three, and the extrapolations were extreme. USGS would not <br />publish that kind of data. Clearly the kind of product is different than that of USGS gages. Another, <br />comparison with the Lower Colorado River Authority in Texas found their gages were very similar to the <br />USGS's gages, and their expenses were within 1 % of USGS costs. <br /> <br />Bob invited folks to look at their work and suggest any ways USGS could work in a more cost <br />effective manner. An internal USGS committee is working to find ways to be more cost effective. . <br />Regarding some suggestions they have already received, Bob said, "We can work out arrangements on a <br />limited basis to share work. We have done so with tribes and in the state of Nebraska. Others do a large <br />part of the data gathering work, and we serve it up on the USGS system." He added, "We are moving <br />more and more to handheld devices to do our measurements. We are utilizing satellites and acoustic <br />DopIer radar technology to get more work per unit of labor. A committee has been constituted to <br />examine every aspect of our stream gaging network." <br /> <br />Lastly, Bob explained that in the last couple of months a circumstance arose that the Bureau of <br />IndianAffairs (BIA), which funds a number of streamgages, but changed their decision making process <br />for allocation of funds. Across seven states, mainly in the Missouri Basin, there have been substantial <br />cutbacks in BIA streamgaging funding. A number of you have communicated the crucial need to fund <br />these gages for the tribes. <br /> <br />Questions and Answers <br /> <br />Phil Ward: Is there a cost analysis available? <br /> <br />Bob: Not yet. But it will be out soon. <br /> <br />Weir Labatt: With the increase in the budget, how will it be allocated? What will it do for us? <br /> <br />Bob: The fully fleshed out network shows any certain state gets a percentage of the program. It is about <br />a 20% increase. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />6 <br />