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<br />cit'llt lJOwt>t'S to be . plUty Si"'''1l11tory to the d(wument. Bnt wlwlh..l'
<br />tl..t llf' tIlt' Olt't1UMI atlol'tt'tI. or lht' IIwthod Iwl'l' pru}.M~I. whieh i.q
<br />thllt lit' tthould fllt'tf>I.," ~t'pnrt btu'k without !li".in~. (11(" ultimate
<br />t'lTt:'d "'flnld 1M;' 11ll." saDie If tlu' C'umpad WIIS uPI,rcn"t"l1.
<br />~fr. lhuu:SY.R. Pt'nil'maU:r. ] wnuld lIen-r Iml'\'H1I1 a mea=mre
<br />",bidl n'l:luin'tl 8llychinJ! furtlu>" thlan his reportin/! ,Il('k.
<br />)Ir. C.UU't::STER. YI'tl; I MID ~ rl"Hdih' that it would be lwtlt'r to
<br />han" him 1l\{"1,.I~' ",port hal"k and for ('ollFn'8S to tMkt' tlu'! matter uli
<br />UII tlu< final aPI'f'U\"al of the ('Ompad. '011 will nule that this bi I
<br />has till' lIuuhle mt>thod: it pro\'iclNo now for tlu. NllUlt'nt in the first
<br />in~1"nrt'.
<br />llr. )hnn:.sn. Yt's.
<br />llr. CAKI'Y.~t:R. #\rul thl"n, if tht'), Of"(" fortult.lllf' l"nou~h to ag-rve.
<br />tht' Dlottt'r dOt"S lint stop tlwrt>, hut it ronit's h:lrk 10 l"OIlJ.,~ for ap-
<br />prO\'ol.
<br />~fr, ~hclIF.sr;1t. y('S.
<br />~Ir, Bon:M, 111l"n-hv a"ohlill~ am' !'-lI(,h thin/! as o('('urrf'd to the
<br />'.('rsaillt'll IreMI\", rl:Uu~htl"r,l '
<br />"rr, ('AHI'.;XTt:R. YPS. sir. In otht'r wore)", th~ nllllll"N im'ohed ore
<br />!<O OInllll'ntellls that tilt' utmost ('Kilt ion Hnd tot'l'lltin,' !'hnu1tI uhtll.in
<br />thnmJ:"hont tilt' l"util"(' Itl'O('f'(.dill1t, fmOl tht' illilialll.d to th~ rondm)-
<br />in}! Itppmntl: thai is tll,. tholl~ht of tho.';t' of u.. who hltw IHul to do
<br />with tht' Jln'l'anatinn of tht' wholt' propram.
<br />.\j!ain. I mij!llIl'Ihtt' in thi!f Mlnllt'l'fwn t1ud tht' inh'rstatt' litiJ.,"l\tion
<br />tf'!"pt't,tin}! tht'l<t' rin>1"'; hll.~ Ill"t'n l"lltt't'ml.'ly un;;lItisfarlor\',
<br />Fo" ilJU~frutinn, tlll'tt' i~ K l.ftSll' nnw pt.mlinJ! lk'twt"t'll \')"nmillJ! anll
<br />(,ulorlldn in t1lt' rnitt'll Shth'S SUptl'lUl" Cnllrt. whidl Wll:S l'ommt'nl",d
<br />ill un 1. TIll'tt' Wt'n' :..~;7 tlayl" ('tlnslllIIl"ll (rom tilt' llt'Jrinnin/.! to Ihe
<br />..nd ill tllf' tllkillj! IIf h'!<tilll(lll~' ill that ("M~. It llllS IlI"l:'n twiN' ltr<,.!ll(,ll.
<br />Inll 1"''<'all;<(' of thl' l'tlOtlitinll". 1I1Hl it h,'in!! nil inlt'l'1'tlltt' prohll"m 1)(>-
<br />tw('('ll 1'1'0 smett'i/..>1ltit>S of tilt> t1'lIioll, the ('onrt is takillJ! its tintt' t.o
<br />fillKlh. Krrj,'1' at " lll't"isinu.
<br />That is II IlIn~ l)(-'ri()(I. tlurill!! whidl thfOT't' IIII\'(" lw't"lI St,"t'l1l.1 ('lllm,."\'8
<br />of 1)(llitil'llllttlllllnistnltion. .In.I/..'"t'S hnn' tlil'lJ. 1m.! ('tmditiuntl! 1I1l,'e
<br />lIIuh.tinlly lIltt,tt'll all(1 t'hllul!l"ll in l..nlh ~tRtl'S ill nuUlY "-"I!artls.
<br />]Jlul this nlltUl'r 1lI"l:'lIlakt'll "I' ill tht' fil"l'lt in~1:1fl('t.. tilt' IIIl1ttt'r tht'te
<br />ill ('nntrm't'""'. anel till' l'tlltl>S l'fltt'n..1 ~'riollsh' U).IOII It C'Ollsitlt,nttioll
<br />nf Ihal riwr: n I!l"t:'tttt'r part of tlu,> ('Onh>nti;.n 111)(11I it ('HuM ha"e
<br />Ill't'lI t'liminllh"tl h~' ('umpa<"l. without qUtostillll. Rill Iht" fo;DlIW ma..'" he
<br />hlIillufothl'r l"in>rs..
<br />Tn rdunl jll>-t for 1I11t' mUIllt'lIt to tilt' prnhlt"1ll of t'xpt'IlSl.'. and tl.t'lI
<br />) will not tllkp IllClT't' uf ,'fUlr timl'. 1 Wlnl jll~t stlltin~ tlult tilt' tll'-
<br />tltilt'll infurIIltttion wns IIt.,in/! 1'T'\')lKI"t,cI h" tht'!<t> \'Brion!; hurt"ltu!l. In
<br />our ~1H1t' Ilf ('{llundo. 1111I1 ill St'w ~It'xi~'O and ,\rizollll likewi~. lilt'
<br />('t)mmi"''li..lwt i~ tll I"uk to tht' pnj!illl"t.rinj! nUll'hillt't~, of thl-' Stith' for
<br />tl,'lnil(...1 fMrts 1II1ll1 inf~lM!lation. II mi!!l!t w('1I bt> ;;1I1!~.e:>1I't1 iu thb!
<br />tl1mrtt't tllllt tilt' l'tJmllllSl'llunt'r fur thE" {-mlt'll Stat('s wou1d nlltul'llll~'
<br />I(lllk tu tilt' Rl't'hmutlinn ~'ni('t". tht' puwl'r inh"n.'!'ts, Ih(> Gt'Oltl/!icsl
<br />Sllrn','. 8ntl otllt'r luh'ison' Il1Il't:'alJ~ fur II ill infnnllfttion. and t'a('h
<br />of tIlt: ~llltt'S luu'inl! its fill't", IntJ,."t'ly in hand. tlw I'xpt'Il!OC" of pre-
<br />H'lItill~ (0 thl' ('tlmmi~ion slwh inforl1l8tillll as mil)" llf' 1ll"t"t'SNtt;r
<br />would prul18hh' Illt~",'I~' II(' ('tIn...1 for in thlls,> t)llRrtt'rs. ~ tile ex-
<br />Ilt'n!oll' to thl' rnih>.1 Statl';; Ilnd to Iht' :-\t.llh>fl of.lht' ('urn~ti~itln it.'<t"lf
<br />woullll",. tar.!'!'1\" thnt of tilt' t'OIl1I)("ns.i"lllon of lt~ ('Omml~lont'rs aud
<br />tlit' tt"pl"t',;('nt;li;,'t' on 1It'IIlllf uf tht' GUn'rnment. indudinj! thl'ir tra,'-
<br />('Iill/! and o(lwr inddl'ntal expl'Il~'S, ltnd the sharin;! of thllt t"xpense-
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<br />of. tht' l'tlmmission itSl'If-that is. itll stt'nUj:.!rapll('r'8 Bnd olher ma-
<br />dllllt'n'. .
<br />lIr. '.lIIC,.'IIl:SVoa. Wt' woullllJt" upt'('It"t.1 to prO\,itle for a tohan.> of
<br />thllt ,.....hl>ral eXIIt'IlJoOe'
<br />lIt, C"nl',:xTF.R. Yes,
<br />~Ir, ~fr('m:x.;K. When I !!II)" - \'ft>" I ntt'1ln the enitt'tl Slatt"S no,'-
<br />I'rnJllent.
<br />~Ir. CAItt'~:S,!,F.lL. I Ihink it ~mlllcl 1)(-' 1''''I)(>t thltt tht. Guwrnmt'ht
<br />~h(lulll. ~ut If It dul not, the StMh'!:! W(lIt" I ouhtll'f<S elo it am'hoW'.
<br />~It. (,'~IIJ\'~f~"'TZ, It wOIIIII,Nl't'11I tll nw that tilt' t'Xlll',;.... is II
<br />nll'r'e trllhnl! m('IJt'll~ to our !)bJl"l'1 in dt'\.t'IClpin~ tlmt phttlit' of .be
<br />matf.tor:. Lut, wllt'n Ihl!il ('UllIllutt.'t' Illk(>fl tilt" hill un th.. lIuOl' of the
<br />JIull!lt' It will hI' Il;;kt'll a L'tllJ(1 lI111ny 111ll'Stitl1lS lI110ut thMt. tllld we
<br />ulll!ht h? lit' PIl'('~rt"lI to ~l.kr f;tmw inh.lIiJ..t.'Ilt reply.
<br />~fr, ). An:.... ). t'S: WI:' Will ~lln.>h' lit.. askt'll.
<br />~fr. .llIcUF.xEH. 1'0 me lilt' I:'xpt.Il&' is nOr)' mHk'rial.
<br />,~f~, Bo)),,"- Thl' l'Halt'8 uU,t:"ht not to I')ll~' tht' elll)t'n~ of that 11'011I,
<br />Im~IO~t'r, Ilt....llIl!lt' hl-' wuuM I",. lIIull'r 8uspici(1Il. t>l<llt'l'ialh- if the,.
<br />~"t' him a Jnr~ ft'f'. of I...,ill~ illflll('n('t'll Ilnd h.. ou.... It to I:c. fn't.> '
<br />:'ifr. C..uIl't:~:n:.Il, I would DlU:;;t ht'8rtiiy l'OII('l1r ir1 IIlllt. I kl~ow
<br />that aR II'OlOmlSSlOnl't from C.olora.1o I would not ('m,- tn I",. ("tlm.
<br />IIt'?satNI hy anrLt-Kly E"1.!lt'. Ilnd I WHUItI nut C8,! to 1I1I\'r ally part or
<br />m~ t';tpt'nse borne by Rorbod~' t'ISt., I wOlllc1 Wish to lit' frt't, to rutt'r
<br />or Withdraw lIR I may he adnSil'ti,
<br />. )fr, Iltlu::01. Thi~ r.~~T1 sUJ!~t'(Clt<',1 h~'T'\'. to Illy minel. 1ri"I'S jllri~li(".
<br />h~ln to (>v('r,l" 1"1S'l1~ Ii' Jnh.l"t'~t that nll~ht Nml(' in. ltlltllhl'ir lnh>n~ts
<br />Will all lit" df'tt'rmJnf't) nnd fOtt'<"llst in this pnx-t.'t.dinj!. tht' nnwrll.
<br />ment as well liS thE' Sbf.to9.
<br />. )rr. CARI-'E:-1T.R. Thnt iR thl' Bnlll 8l1nln;is o( tilt' "uhjt'l.t. 11l1tllhl'
<br />mtl'l't'sts hannJ!. btot.'n .!It'ttle'd. both th(' F::tlltf':4 lllltl th(. (Jowrnmrnt
<br />mlt~' IH'OCt"l't1 wllh 8Om~ dl'gn>t> of. ('tOrtllint)' as to fntun.' ill\'t-~t-
<br />ml'ots. You ~now t~e m"eshlll'n!s III thoSl' l'llUnUlln!l rt"St'ITllil'S ill
<br />thl' ranyon will rUIl. lIlto mllny n."I.lions. IInel tht' inn'~1mt'lIts in ttle
<br />St!'tE"S a.lrt"~d.,' I'un mto mHn,'- 01l11100S: I 1Ilt.'an tlit> inn'!'ltrm'nts II,.
<br />pru'll.tr mdn'uluals. .
<br />,,'ithUllt Mil\' .Iispnsitinn to in an," \\'11," tll'tnttl from tilt' WOllllt.t_
<br />ful wurk thlllllaR Iw,..'n dOllt' IJ~' J,.'O\','rnmplltlll :I,!!('ul'il'l'!:, I ..imph' WIlIIt
<br />tn ('1111 ytour IIttl'llilHn to till' flu,t tllll.t I am .(uh'i>-t'tl IImt tlir Bno
<br />(t'nSlls "hows tlUlt of all lilt' )Ilnds irri,!!ult'(1 i~l tlJt> IYnitrd ~flllt'S 21
<br />pl'r l't'nt uIII)' Wl'n:' 9Pr"t'l1 h)" (Jowrnnwnt proJt'('t". anti that 1)1'01.11111\'
<br />till' Hl'20 l"t!~SI!S wll~ 811O\\' pf?Lahly lint on'r.1I) Iwr ('('nt of thll;.;t' lun(l..
<br />N'rwtlllY I 'mtrt) :--tn~t'S proj("("t,(, )fy N'lI~n fot ml'ntiolliu~ thnt ill
<br />to ("It II to ,\'onr, nttt'nl1nn fht' ~ll.('t tlmt ..till' J.,"I't'ntE"r t1r\'('luflll)(,lIt hilS
<br />hl'f'll hy whllt III known lIS IJ~I\'llh' capItal unci tt..- ,,,,,'("s Ft'rn' ell'.
<br />~.l'ltJpmt'nt nllw pnll~~L I.t IS. n~Jt n OO\.t'~mt'll~ projt't"t at all, 11
<br />I... PI'tllllN'l"1 h~' tllf' <<lthforma F..h~1O Co.. I)run:lrlh' fur th" Ilurpt~
<br />o( ~"('nl'ratin~ pmwr fur the !<ul)ply of Los ,\n,!!C'It;s and tll:lt whnlt"
<br />n-gllln.
<br />:'Ilr. Th,IIl:s. IIlt"1' YOll an," info".'nati~lIl !,.I';'lIIt wltat thl' ('t)lIlI):lratin'
<br />f':\Ik'nSt" IS till tl~e IMrt uf fht' nlrlOll" tIll)n'HlulIls llntl tlw SMtioll for
<br />!hl' ft'f<l1l1ts nlltnmf'd l
<br />~fr. C.\Rl"t:xn:n. lI:.dn,!! hlld an 1I1I1'11';1"1l1l1 disll;!TI't'lIIt'llt with mil."
<br />h1t'llIll('r of... J!owrmnpnfal .J1'1)II~m:'nt ht'rt' n"'Jll'(,tin,t:" thllt. I wHuM
<br />lIot ('an> to I'lIt..t UpOIl that "uhJlI't"t Un\\'. I micht statl' that that
<br />mattt'r has I__n mtln> fir IE"SS ill NlOtro\'Nll", anJ I do nnt know hilt
<br />wlll1l. .'''''u"nal. tlwn" i", m('rit on botb Sillt'S:
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