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CHAIRMAN, I believe the estimate is $300 an acre foot to make it self ,liquidating, from $300 to $500 would be necessary, 9."il.d the fl"'il'.t'rlers don1t feel 'iheycan pay that lnucho .. SECRETARY SHAW' I wish a gentleman here from Central Utah would tell us about it. ". MR. TAYLOR, The neer Creek Project is self-liquidating. We feel emtral Utah will be self-liquidating" The power development and industrial development of Utah Mnges on what power we get out of this project. Of course, the water project will tak~.in the whole central part of the State, and it will be a large project. How'lver, when they built the Deer Creek Project, they only took in the cheap part of it. All the water that's developed in Central Utah is right down in the Colorado. It won't take any, or very little, of the Colorado, except water in the mountains that runs down into the Colorado, and there will be several storages, At the present time, we get a lot of power from Grand Coulee-- the Geneva Steel Plant -- times when they are pulling from Utah Power & Light. They tell me you can stand at the Coulee Power Plant and see the hand go ~p and down. It affects it that way. They have, a 50,000 kilowatt capacity at Geneva, and when it's running, they have around 4300 employees. There are a lot of other industries coming in that section. We need water, the report says about 27,000 acre feet to take care of .the industrial demands. At Nephi a new plant is coming up, and with cheap steel coming in there, it's' going to bring in a lot of industries, but you canlt do anything without water and power, and we think that will solve our problems. We don't see why it can't go forward. At the most, we won't take any more than what our share of the water will be out of the Colorado. CHAIRMAN; Wouldn't it be cheaper and better for you to draw your power from a dam' at Glen Canyon that will generate 400,000 kilowatts and transmission distance of only a fraction of that from Grand Codee? MR, TAYLOR x That's w)~y this big power project out there is included in the Central Utah Project: It might go forward without that big project being tied to it because we need the power. In a short time. in the northwest, they will take all that Crand Coulee power. You take the Strawberry Project, in the last four years. we have more than doubled our capacity, our requirements, and it's the same way with Provo. It has doubled in population, the same as you have here" What would your city here be without electricity at the present time? We are pulling from Grand Coulee to take care of the overload. CHAIRMAN: When you speak of self-liquidation, do you include in the eentral Utah Project th'!t part from which the water is obtained'? By pumping 1600 feet and conducting it through tunnels and channels? You were speaking of Strawberry Valley Project from the Upper Streams. -31- ~;